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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathew View Post
    So true and that's why I resigned (twice). Everyone is constantly bickering that you're not active enough, you're afk in the room, not watching the screen, being rude, etc. Majority of staff in general are just waiting for you to slip up so you can report someone - what happened to working as a team? What happened when the sole reason of HxHD was to CHILL OUT and HELP? That's the reason I joined when Dinasaw was the manager and sadly, in my opinion, it's gone downhill.


    Your opinion is bias because you're HxHD Manangement, simple as.


    I'm glad to be honest. I do think the scripts Dave has coded are brilliant. I'd actually love to criticise them but I can't find anything wrong with them!
    Managers are there for a reason and it's their job to track staff. Listeners are there to enjoy the music and leave people to do their own jobs.
    I don't know if I should be screaming at you about your comments towards HxHD and my better half, thanking you for what you said about my coding, or agreeing with you about the latter points. It's for this reason that I agree with passwording the statistics tool (although I would have done whatever HxL wanted anyway). Not because DJs are moaning about looking bad when they, quite seriously, do absolutely heck all

    Quote Originally Posted by Sammify View Post
    I am still aware that a lot of competition happens in HxHD, people try to get the most hours and they seem to think it's a contest, when it isn't. Competition is a good thing when there's the right amount of it, but a lot already happens at HabboxLive and we don't need any more.
    I can't speak for Habbox Live but I can say that speculation about competition at HxHD is just that - speculation. I cannot personally see it; or if it exists it doesn't seem to be hurting anybody!

    Quote Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx View Post
    It's going to be made private anyway. So yeah!
    Done! Whether or not they allow DJs to view anything now is upto HxL management.
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    i think it's a bit of a wounder actually as i found the song/listener stats really very useful.
    but i guess thats life. eh.

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    Moan at me all you like saying "Oh you only said that because you work for HxHD" but the notes system, is not competitive at all anymore, I admit at first everyone was like "I have more hours than you!" but now I don't think anyone cares if anyone has more minutes than them, normally it's just friendly banter now but if you introduce it to HxL it'll just die down and no one will care and no one will end up being competitive.

    And i've noticed a few people 'slating' David for creating the script, he didn't have to if he didn't.. you should be thanking him because he didn't get asked, he just saw a few people wanting it and created it. It's helping HabboxLive really and helping the managers with reports.

    If i'm honest, this thread should now be closed to prevent further arguments. The HabboxLive management have chose to keep it private so that's the end I guess.

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    I completely disagree with the opinion of making it private.

    It's already completely public information that you can gather yourselves (requires quite a bit of skill though) but still!

    If you are a DJ and embarrassed about how little / how inactive you are then DJ more or quit, I think it's as simple as that. Of course you are supposed to be a department, and supposed to work as a team so it'd be good to highlight who isn't pulling their weight - why shouldn't everybody have access to that info?

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    The decision to make the information private was the decision of HxL Management and one they are perfectly entitled to make. Of course this information is publicly available but the resource David has created (and kudos to him for that) was designed for the use of Management so they could easily keep track of DJs. In the coming weeks or months, it is likely it will be incorporated into the development of V6 and further information that we might consider confidential could be added to it. This alone is one reason to take the information out of the public eye.

    Right now though, the reasoning is that if such a resource was given to people so publicly it, in my opinion, undermines the management team at HabboxLive. The information you can get using the script come in the form of cold hard fact - it does not take into account personal and subjective information that management have access to, and given the nature of a lot of people at Habbox (and I don't think anyone can deny this!) it is likely to lead to people make observations that are later used to ridicule the department or a DJ without fully taking into account private information surrounding the department itself.

    I guess part of this is our fault, we should never have publicly released the script and we should have discussed it with HxL Management before doing so.

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    1) Very nice tool

    2) Don't see why listeners need to be shown the leaderboard, graphs, or duplicate songs, as these (especially the last) will simply serve to make criticism all too easy. It'll make for the public trying to manage the staff through threads and undermining managers. Many people are saying that this COULD be gathered theoretically by users. Certainly, but have you seen anyone do it? Ever? It is a fantastic tool for management, I agree, but it will also make it simple for some people who complain overmuch or to hear themselves heard to whine. I'll concede that there are people who post legitimately trying to improve HxL, and maybe these will be some which use public avenues to log DJ time as it has been suggested can be done. If they do that, more power to them.

    3) Can I make the suggestion that for "All songs" instead of just being a list since the beginning of time (which will eventually get enormously long, and does anyone really need to see what was played a week ago? ) that duplicate entries are not reentered, just a list of every song that has ever been played on HabboxLive? There will still be some variation because of what different DJs name the songs but it'll cut down some.

    4) Why on EARTH is the HxHD script public?? I understand its a decision made by HxHD management, and I can see its value to the managers, but why on earth public??

    PS: David, while I very much respect your right to express your opinion, I find it pretty difficult to believe that while you accuse staff of being biased because they were staff for a short time or because they were staff members etc, you hold no bias as the creator and manager who implemented it. You are entirely entitled to defend your opinions but declaring other opinions invalid due to perceived bias is a bit of a pot-kettle type situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nvrspk4 View Post
    1) Very nice tool

    2) Don't see why listeners need to be shown the leaderboard, graphs, or duplicate songs, as these (especially the last) will simply serve to make criticism all too easy. It'll make for the public trying to manage the staff through threads and undermining managers. Many people are saying that this COULD be gathered theoretically by users. Certainly, but have you seen anyone do it? Ever? It is a fantastic tool for management, I agree, but it will also make it simple for some people who complain overmuch or to hear themselves heard to whine. I'll concede that there are people who post legitimately trying to improve HxL, and maybe these will be some which use public avenues to log DJ time as it has been suggested can be done. If they do that, more power to them.

    3) Can I make the suggestion that for "All songs" instead of just being a list since the beginning of time (which will eventually get enormously long, and does anyone really need to see what was played a week ago? ) that duplicate entries are not reentered, just a list of every song that has ever been played on HabboxLive? There will still be some variation because of what different DJs name the songs but it'll cut down some.

    4) Why on EARTH is the HxHD script public?? I understand its a decision made by HxHD management, and I can see its value to the managers, but why on earth public??

    PS: David, while I very much respect your right to express your opinion, I find it pretty difficult to believe that while you accuse staff of being biased because they were staff for a short time or because they were staff members etc, you hold no bias as the creator and manager who implemented it. You are entirely entitled to defend your opinions but declaring other opinions invalid due to perceived bias is a bit of a pot-kettle type situation.
    Regarding number 4. I don't believe it is fully public, the only thing that is public is the staff profiles.

    Example: http://davzy.com/notes/#/profile/,Lexiilu

    Unless that is what you mean?


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    Quote Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx View Post
    Regarding number 4. I don't believe it is fully public, the only thing that is public is the staff profiles.

    Example: http://davzy.com/notes/#/profile/,Lexiilu

    Unless that is what you mean?
    I can see daily average, time since born, and weekly total with rankings...unless I'm just special?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nvrspk4 View Post
    I can see daily average, time since born, and weekly total with rankings...unless I'm just special?
    and you can also see the weekly leaderboard of staff time - http://davzy.com/notes/#/profile

    Seeing as some people like seeing who was the most active dj of the week and stuff, would it be possible to have a section on habbox.com main page saying. DJ Of the week = *Insert name* and a picture of there habbo as a reward for being the most active dj and getting a bit of recognition. Might also make the djs want to dj more to try and be that person in the spotlight?

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    I carn't view it

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