Russian Samovar

[-:Undertaker:-]

In relation to this thread; http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...=668729&page=2

I feel I should clear this up.

I did not buy any Russian Samovars prior to them rising, although I did have two in my room from many months before and they stayed in that room until they actually went under their original price (back to around 1 CS) so I could say at the end; I never made a penny from the whole saga and I did not fix any values.

The reason why they rose was simply because we had a discussion and found that the ione Gift's were actually super rares by the Habbox definition - so I contacted 8Freak8 (General Manager at the time) and asked if we could have a debate on it as he had said he would rather gather opinions on the matter before we made the change.

So the thread was made and they naturally started rising, so I did my job and updated it. I knew at the time that if I had been seen buying and selling Russian Samovars then it certainly would not look very good on me and so I kept away from buying some - so again, no motive for me behind it other than to sort the categories out that the rares were placed within. The accusation that 'Undertaker made a bomb' is totally wrong - I actually lost out from it as the two Samovars I had had many months before this even surfaced, I kept until they went lower than the normal price I bought them for in the place.

No doubt rare values staff at the time made profit on them, but so did many people on the hotel - just as now if I made a thread speculating that the Purple Dragon Lamp was going to rise by a large amount, and it rose a tiny bit; many could start buying and it would rise even more so. If I was out to scam the values at that particular time, I would have surely have fixed the price of the Alien Artifact # 1337 as I had quite a few of them.

I did my job and updated the rare to the price it was going for and I never made a penny from it.

..but Undertaker made a bomb.

Not true, I made a loss to stand by my point.

And as for this..

Eventually something happened and it happened fast - everyone went to Dan's room and he was selling hundreds of russian samovars for a high price and once he had sold them all, the price of Russian Samovars slowly started to decline.

No you are confusing me with somebody else, a girl who went by the name of Rosy from what I recall. She had hundreds of Samovars you are right on that, and during the time they were rising she had contacted me as Rare Values Manager to ask my advice and so forth on them. I agree it looked bad when you consider that, however seeing as I had only known her for a few days I find it very hard to understand why I would fiddle prices for her and secondly, if I had nothing to gain - why would I fix prices? Surely if I was out to fix prices and make a lot from it I would pick a rare that I had many of, not a rare that somebody I hardly knew had a lot of.

As a result Dan was fired and I think that all of us Rare Values Reporters were replaced too because Sierk didn't want the team that had been there during this scandal.

The majority of reporters resigned as they knew the department and myself were being made scapegoats.

At the time I was working in the Rare Values Team and Dan said "You should buy Russian Samovars, they're increasing in price"

A lot of you asked that if they moved to super rares, would it be likely they would increase - I gave you my opinion which was that yes, they would probably rise if they moved. Again, if I was out to fix prices - I certainly would not have shared my motive in staff forums.

[Callum.]

yeh, all the posts were so misinformed but mine. hxf warrior me.

[Special]

thanks for clearing this up but why did you forward this to me lol

[Samantha]

I can see why you forwarded it to me, but as I started, I said that there was nothing to discuss.
I knew nothing of the incident so I couldn't comment. I asked questions like "Why? and What?" just so I could get the basis of the actions you took.
So basically, the person who made the thread misinterpreted the whole situation. Quite easy to do as it was years ago, on the other hand, thank you for clearing it up.


-But don't see why everyone else's posts were misinformed, there were many people against the thread, such as Special, Myself, Mr-Trainor and Milestone. So I don't see how everyone was misinformed?
No one knew the facts, only the thread started was quite positive of the events that occurred, fortunately he was wrong.
Just saying that I don't think it was fair to say everyone else's post apart from yours was misinformed.

[Callum.]

if you look at the comments, like "it was a mistake and he learned from it" and all, you'd see it wasn't really a mistake as such. so win.

[Ajthedragon]

I remember such times, I wouldn't lie about it, I'd just move on. You got your punishment and rose back through the ranks. You're now the RV manager and are trusted again. Nothing more is to be said frankly.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I remember such times, I wouldn't lie about it, I'd just move on. You got your punishment and rose back through the ranks. You're now the RV manager and are trusted again. Nothing more is to be said frankly.

If that is in reference to me then i'd like to point out that i'm not telling any lies and i'd challenge anybody accusing me so to prove it.

[Ajthedragon]

Sadly I didn't take screenshots to try and back my case. Its my opinion about what I saw going down during those times. It doesn't stand for anything as far as anyone else is concerned.

[Ed.]

AJ, I was there too. I witnessed those events but now it seems unacceptable to discuss them?

[Callum.]

what do you want to get out of discusssing it though? it wasn't exactly a high point in habbox history, and will just create arguments that aren't worth it. it was ages ago, so pretty troll.