Welcome Committee

[Matthew]

Im sorry guys, but the wc isn't actually effecting you at all, your not new members so it's not harming you.
Would you like to explain to us how we could not 'act like robots'?

Thats the whole point. There's no way that you can avoid 'acting like robots'. The Welcome To Habbox Forum / Goodbye section is perfect for welcoming new members, and by the sounds of it more new members post in there than in the WC section.

Hopefully management will find a way to improve the WC but for now it just seems a little unnecessary?

[Tintinnabulate]

Im sorry guys, but the wc isn't actually effecting you at all, your not new members so it's not harming you.
Would you like to explain to us how we could not 'act like robots'?

By trying to strike a conversation. Its a pointless forum and a copy of Welcome to habboxforum. Most questions can be answered in Welcome to Habbox forum section anyway. WC is useless and the forum did well without it. Like I said, its a waste of time and effort and two extra forums slows the site down - especially when management are so against adding forums.

---------- Post added 07-10-2010 at 10:12 PM ----------

This is how dead the forum is:



That last reply in the second forum in the screenshot was my suggestions on how to improve WC yet Jamesy and Nixt decided they cba replying as WC is a failure and then they accuse me of losing faith lol.



1-2 replies with the new member never replying.

Btw moderators even though you cannot, none of that is confidential as new members can see it all anyway...

[Tintinnabulate]

Management needs to learn that whilst it's policy is not to have staff up to review by the forum users, users will leave due to bad decisions and for not being listened to.

I tried explaining that to them but they never listen. They jump at every chance to hand out warnings which is a shame. Its all about usernotes now.
I mean they have made so many active members leave or made them inactive.
Lemme quote Richie:

Richard says:
*moderation sucks because a mods job is to look for fault in a post
*and even the slightest
*they'll warn u for
*yh forums dying now

100% guarantee that Jamesy will warn me as he has said I cant say anything negative about his dept in my thread in feedback.

[Chippiewill]

100% guarantee that Jamesy will warn me as he has said I cant say anything negative about his dept in my thread in feedback.

Just like when staff break rules Jamesy shouldn't have the authority to close something that puts him and his department under review and it should require matt's authorisation to close.

However perhaps a seperate thread may be more suitable to address this issue of Management not allowing users to state opinions on their behaviour and decisions.

Richard says:
*moderation sucks because a mods job is to look for fault in a post
*and even the slightest
*they'll warn u for
*yh forums dying now

In Jamesy's defence he did state that the Pointless posting rule needed review

However, I do believe that portion of the rule to be draconian and will be looking to revise it to avoid this sort of thing occurring again.

[GommeInc]

When registering, you should restrict all forums except the welcome thread. Then, to progress onto the full forum, you have to post twice. Then encourage them to post a hello thread and then also an interest thread. And then, as a "new level" introduce the public welcome thread. idk

Yes... restricting; but at least they know you're there and will later lead to better retainment (is that the word) of the users when they see a few members warmly greeting them to the forum.

How can you make such a conclusion? I can see that putting people off. You join a forum to discuss similar ideas, not be forced to say hello to people. I'd sooner leave a forum if I was forced to post a thread welcoming myself. Just send them a PM with all the details and encourage them to post a thread, but not make it necessary.

So why do we need a welcome committee? I'm amazed how much people seem to care about this, when it just seems to me to be a total waste of time! Direct 'em to the Welcome / Goodbye Forum, they're going to have to see other forum members eventually, not a bunch of "carefully" selected robots, which is what you're effectively making the Welcome Committee Still not sure what's wrong with a PM, or a banner that states "Welcome, why not say hello and see what monsters you're joining in the Welcome Forum?"

[Tintinnabulate]

How can you make such a conclusion? I can see that putting people off. You join a forum to discuss similar ideas, not be forced to say hello to people. I'd sooner leave a forum if I was forced to post a thread welcoming myself. Just send them a PM with all the details and encourage them to post a thread, but not make it necessary.

So why do we need a welcome committee? I'm amazed how much people seem to care about this, when it just seems to me to be a total waste of time! Direct 'em to the Welcome / Goodbye Forum, they're going to have to see other forum members eventually, not a bunch of "carefully" selected robots, which is what you're effectively making the Welcome Committee Still not sure what's wrong with a PM, or a banner that states "Welcome, why not say hello and see what monsters you're joining in the Welcome Forum?"

Indeed, its just a waste of time and is only slowing the forum down. Its patronising for new members.

[Agnostic Bear]

Gonna try and put this out without it seeming like I'm attempting to coerce some sort of argument:

Isn't the welcome committee just for people addicted to hxf / "popular"? I'm pretty the welcome forum has served this function for the past trillion years and will continue to do so even when these silly ideas (which are out in force quite recently) die out.

I shall quite soon be jumping ship to CHF I think, with the recent appointment to the moderator position of someone who knows absolutely nothing about technology to the technology forum, it appears clear to me that the management of this forum lack the competency to perform a fair and rational job.

Begin post about the state of this forum:

But hey, at least I get to **** about on CHF without having to worry what users are getting moderators spying on me trying to get me on something.

I shall be foruming as hard as always, putting my views and advice across as HxF crashes and burns as it is already slowly starting to do. Before it was just speculation and people getting laughed at for suggesting it. Now it's actually happening and it's quite fun to watch the users complain and nothing get done, so I'm gonna go ahead and throw my complaints in.

The server is a joke, nice 500 errors and timeouts, those optimisations SURE HELPED. Looks like it's boosting activity and uptime so much.

OThe staff, atmosphere of a nigh on totalitarian dictatorship and activity are all destroying this forum. And when you and your tiny views on how to manage a community finally widen enough to see what's going on, it'll be too late and everything you think it has been such a fantastic idea to have done will have all been for naught. You wont have anybody but the very few randomers coming in here, no regulars, no dedicated posters, nothing.

I don't have any responsibility, I have no addiction and no ties to this forum. You will criticise me and probably force upon me some sort of ridiculous post that attempts to debate what I have said.

Time and time again I have been right and this time is no different. I just like to do my research before posting things like this. So go ahead, criticise, flame and punish me, you'll only be re-enforcing what I've just said.

Quite the double-edged sword, running a forum. I have done all I can to attempt to open your eyes. It's your move, and I suspect you'll end up stumbling blind as always.

tl;dr:
server sucks, forum sucks, community is dying, forum is dying, activity is dying, management are blind and loving it.

[Nixt]

I'll start off with the server which we all agree is in a complete state at the moment and certainly not to a standard we believe is acceptable. Unfortunately the only individual with access and the ability to appropriately optimise it is Jin and I am of the understanding that he will be banging heads together with some friends in order to ensure it is fixed as soon as possible, as will the HabboxLive Radio. Unfortunately, the server is completely out of the hands of Forum and General Management and as much as I would like to say it will be fixed, I can't because it is not within my power to do so.

Regarding our "totalitarian dictatorship". I'd urge you to check the development announcements forum, and read each set of Sunday updates introduced. I'd urge you also to look toward this Sunday where we are implementing numerous things on the basis of members suggestions. The Sunday updates are almost exclusively the product of member suggestions, adjusted appropriately by Management - this has been the case for a while now, and is in stark contrast with the system that was in place under previous General Managers. I would ask you to justify how you believe we are a totalitarian dictatorship? We are constantly looking for feedback and always respond to it. Yes, we reject things, but this isn't often and not if we thought it would outright damage the forum. In the case of the Welcome Committee, we accept and admit it hasn't met its full capacity thus far but we would like to try our new system - it certainly won't damage anything by trying. In fact, the Welcome Committee was implemented after it was suggested by forum members.

As I say, if you have any specific feedback on what we're doing wrong, I'll welcome it with open arms.

[Agnostic Bear]

OOPS THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE IN A DIFFERENT THREAD -- IGNORE THIS MY BAD

[Tintinnabulate]

Gonna try and put this out without it seeming like I'm attempting to coerce some sort of argument:

Isn't the welcome committee just for people addicted to hxf / "popular"? I'm pretty the welcome forum has served this function for the past trillion years and will continue to do so even when these silly ideas (which are out in force quite recently) die out.

I shall quite soon be jumping ship to CHF I think, with the recent appointment to the moderator position of someone who knows absolutely nothing about technology to the technology forum, it appears clear to me that the management of this forum lack the competency to perform a fair and rational job.

Begin post about the state of this forum:

But hey, at least I get to **** about on CHF without having to worry what users are getting moderators spying on me trying to get me on something.

I shall be foruming as hard as always, putting my views and advice across as HxF crashes and burns as it is already slowly starting to do. Before it was just speculation and people getting laughed at for suggesting it. Now it's actually happening and it's quite fun to watch the users complain and nothing get done, so I'm gonna go ahead and throw my complaints in.

The server is a joke, nice 500 errors and timeouts, those optimisations SURE HELPED. Looks like it's boosting activity and uptime so much.

OThe staff, atmosphere of a nigh on totalitarian dictatorship and activity are all destroying this forum. And when you and your tiny views on how to manage a community finally widen enough to see what's going on, it'll be too late and everything you think it has been such a fantastic idea to have done will have all been for naught. You wont have anybody but the very few randomers coming in here, no regulars, no dedicated posters, nothing.

I don't have any responsibility, I have no addiction and no ties to this forum. You will criticise me and probably force upon me some sort of ridiculous post that attempts to debate what I have said.

Time and time again I have been right and this time is no different. I just like to do my research before posting things like this. So go ahead, criticise, flame and punish me, you'll only be re-enforcing what I've just said.

Quite the double-edged sword, running a forum. I have done all I can to attempt to open your eyes. It's your move, and I suspect you'll end up stumbling blind as always.

tl;dr:
server sucks, forum sucks, community is dying, forum is dying, activity is dying, management are blind and loving it.

Excellent post. And to prove your points, every member is against the WC yet management want to do it, make more crappy forums for it, and then go NO MORE FORUMS AS IT SLOWS IT DOWN BUT WE WILL MAKE MORE COS WE CAN AS ITS OUR IDEA.

---------- Post added 08-10-2010 at 09:15 PM ----------

I'll start off with the server which we all agree is in a complete state at the moment and certainly not to a standard we believe is acceptable. Unfortunately the only individual with access and the ability to appropriately optimise it is Jin and I am of the understanding that he will be banging heads together with some friends in order to ensure it is fixed as soon as possible, as will the HabboxLive Radio. Unfortunately, the server is completely out of the hands of Forum and General Management and as much as I would like to say it will be fixed, I can't because it is not within my power to do so.

Regarding our "totalitarian dictatorship". I'd urge you to check the development announcements forum, and read each set of Sunday updates introduced. I'd urge you also to look toward this Sunday where we are implementing numerous things on the basis of members suggestions. The Sunday updates are almost exclusively the product of member suggestions, adjusted appropriately by Management - this has been the case for a while now, and is in stark contrast with the system that was in place under previous General Managers. I would ask you to justify how you believe we are a totalitarian dictatorship? We are constantly looking for feedback and always respond to it. Yes, we reject things, but this isn't often and not if we thought it would outright damage the forum. In the case of the Welcome Committee, we accept and admit it hasn't met its full capacity thus far but we would like to try our new system - it certainly won't damage anything by trying. In fact, the Welcome Committee was implemented after it was suggested by forum members.

As I say, if you have any specific feedback on what we're doing wrong, I'll welcome it with open arms.

Actually WC was suggested by a very few members with majority being against it.