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    Im sorry I don't care what anyone says every single one of these parties that apparently represent 'the people' (funny that when for example David Cameron is from a very wealthy background whos family own an estate, so he's definitely not feeling the strain of the recession) have not done us any favours or followed up with their 'promises'. Many are millionaires who have never seen real life in the way that we do (Eton and Oxbridge anyone?) with many of them going straight from uni into Westminster.
    They all say what they think we want to hear just to charm their way into power and then completely ignore everything they've ever said (Heey Nick Clegg remember what you said about uni admission fees? No?). Many say Labour produced this mess but lets not forget the riots and loss of jobs, schools, hospitals etc when the tories were in power just before that and so on and so forth. People are fickle and so ready to point fingers and forget about the past that we're never going to learn and keep bringing the same rubbish-talking parties into power. If people are so desperate for the this so called 'change' why have we bought the same dudd parties back into power who couldn't solve it however many years ago and can't solve it now.
    The amount of adults I've had turn round to me "just watch this country go down the drain" because lets face it the majority of us on here will probably not be able to afford our first house without being in ridiculous debt, and those of us at uni will more than likely not end up in the career we're studying for. So yeah these parties whether they be Labour, Tory or Lib Dem have done me no favours.

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    I don't fully support any. If David Cameron kept his promise to leave the EU I would have supported him as the Tories were the only well known party that supported leaving. He obviously went back on that though, and after learning recently what Thatcher did to the country, I can say I'd never vote/support Conservative. I'm for Scottish Independence, and although the SNP are just Lib Dem/Labour but nationalist I would probably vote UKIP as ridiculous as it sounds because they're the only party that are committed to leaving the EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R0BB13G View Post
    Conservatives in general are right wing. And actually red is my favourite colour. I
    Simply do not like Labour.
    But I ask, what is right wing about the Tory Party?


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    I don't really see the big problem in being in the EU. Practically every other big country in the continent is in the Union. Plus it has its benefits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exploited View Post
    I don't really see the big problem in being in the EU. Practically every other big country in the continent is in the Union. Plus it has its benefits.
    Very true tbh. If we leave the EU we will be resented and cause an uproar. The only wealthy european country not in it is Switzerland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exploited View Post
    I don't really see the big problem in being in the EU. Practically every other big country in the continent is in the Union. Plus it has its benefits.
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    Very true tbh. If we leave the EU we will be resented and cause an uproar. The only wealthy european country not in it is Switzerland.
    You also have Norway and Iceland (who has been able to devalue her currency unlike Greece who is trapped in the single currency). I'd certainly like to know the benefits - is it the £45m+ a day we give to the place? is it the £100bn+ UK business loses thanks to costly EU regulations? is it being able to pay for expensive wages & pensions for EU ministers? is it being told what to do by a group of unelected federalists?

    - We pay higher bills for our food because of the EU (we can't buy from the Commonwealth anymore, we have to buy expensive French agricultural products thanks to the disasterous CAP policy).

    - We pay higher energy bills to combat global warming (even though temperatures have been decreasing for the past 10 years) thanks to EU regulations which force us to build expensive and inefficent windfarms.

    - Our courts have lost supremacy meaning the ECHR and the ECJ can overrule British courts with foreign law at anytime, thus bringing to an end hundreds of years of habeus corpus & civil liberties.

    - Our parliament has lost supremacy meaning the EU and its other bodies can overrule the democratically elected British parliament over a number of issues.

    I mean I could go on but we'd be here some day, but just to expose what this project really is for you I will list some quotes (I can also provide many many more upon request which give the real game away);

    In 1992 the German chancellor Helmut Kohl told us what was coming: 'The European Union Treaty . . . within a few years will lead to the creation of what the founding fathers of modern Europe dreamed of after the war, the United States of Europe.'

    In 1993 the Commission president Jacques Delors explained: 'We're not just here to make a single market, but a political union.'

    In 1996 the German president Roman Herzog declared: 'The day of the nation state is over.'

    In 1999 Romano Prodi, who took over as Commission president from Jacques Santer, gave an excellent description of how the EU had developed over the years: 'The single market was the theme of the eighties' the single currency was the theme of the nineties; we must now face the difficult task of moving towards a single economy, a single political unity.' and we went on to explain where he was headed: 'For the first time since the fall of the Roman Empire, we have the oppertunity to unite Europe.'

    The headof the Bundesbank, Hans Tietmeyer, said; 'A European currency will lead to member nations transferring their sovereignty over financial and wage policy as well as monetary affairs. It is an illusion to think that states can hold on to their autonomy.'

    The first president of the European Central Bank (ECB) backed up this view; 'The process of monetary union goes hand in hand, must go hand in hand, with political integration and ultimately political union. EMU (European Monetary Union] is, and always was meant to be, a stepping stone on the way to a United Europe.'

    And the second head of the ECB, Jean-Claude Trichet, was also explicit about the EU's powers; ' The Council of Ministers will have more power over the budgets of member states than the federal government in the United States has over the budget of Texas.'

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    The United Kingdom Independence Party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callum. View Post


    Losing the faith, I'll need to look more into it.
    pmsl lib dem r conservatives now wudnt dare
    labour yes plz!!!!!

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    UKIP.

    I laughed at how you described BNP as "radical neo-nazis". Just because they are a right wing party doesn't necessarily mean they are neo-nazis. I also lauged at how you described the Conservative Party as right-wing. They left most right-wing policies behind when they tried to emulate "New Labour" and become the common mans party. All they really did was lose their core vote. Maybe if they held a referendum, in or out of Europe, they'd have won an overall majority thanks to the core vote.

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