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    Quote Originally Posted by HotelUser
    I hate how unfair it is that America is, in a large sense, above the authority of the United Nations, where other countries would have ben subject to international court for such an offense.
    But then you also have the problem of those international bodies being unelected and unaccountable to the people. Unless you advocate world government (which in itself is also unworkable and disasterous) then there's not really a solution - the only sensible solution is to disband organisations such as the United Nations which are only intended to be used by the rich and powerful (Sir Morris Strong, who advocated and still does to this day, using global warming as a way to achieve world government) to bully those who step out of line.

    We see it today with Iran and Venezuela in regards to the United States, and in the past with Cuba.

    The United Nations and such international bodies are not needed, we have ambassadors afterall.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordy View Post
    What are you on about with Americans wanting to see other countries get bombed? Completely disagree there, not a very big fan of President Bush at all, especially how in his latter years he was very quiet on any issues such as the American economy and Foreign Policy, waiting for a new president to get elected. I also disagree with the war in Iraq and possible Afghanistan and his handling of the Hurricane Katrina situation. BUT anyway, I thought his handling over the 9/11 issue was perfect. He kept America together and restored everyone's faith in the government by taking suitable action and reassuring the people, this was reflected by his rocketing approval rating, the high morale of people and the fact there's been no major terrorist attacks in the US since.
    George W. Bush used scare tactics to push through the US Patriot Bill (just as we did here with anti-terrorism laws which removed and destroyed hundreds of years worth of civil liberties) and also as a tactic to get people behind them wars. Fear is an essential tool for politicians just as the Church used it to keep people in check and order hundreds of years ago. The same can be seen today with terrorism laws, global warming, the EU - almost everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    George W. Bush used scare tactics to push through the US Patriot Bill (just as we did here with anti-terrorism laws which removed and destroyed hundreds of years worth of civil liberties) and also as a tactic to get people behind them wars. Fear is an essential tool for politicians just as the Church used it to keep people in check and order hundreds of years ago. The same can be seen today with terrorism laws, global warming, the EU - almost everything.
    This is no big secret. He hastily wanted to get certain bills pushed.

    In my opinion the Obama administration has been a lot like the Lib Dems in that they made definitive promises when they first came into power. They [Obama administration] insisted Guantanamo Bay would be shut down with [a year] this has failed, and also Obama publicly came out and said the CIA would no longer use water boarding. However even if this was not defended, as Bush has, it would be near impossible to enforce any such laws on the front line, just as the hooding of detainees is impossible to judge with both the British and American forces.

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    I reckon it would be a good read.
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