Student vandals turn second university fees protest violent

[Dean]

Probably a member of a facist/anti-capitalist group who is not a student. Why are people so gullible just to think they are students becaus they are there?

You're correct Catzsy! The minority of these organised student protests are mostly non-student anarchists.

[GommeInc]

The trashing and breaking of things is sparked when the police decide to hit people who are sat down with batons, then they get a firework to the face and cry.

What teet brings fireworks to a protest? It's no wonder some students get treated like scum and the police are taking any action possible... It's a protest, not a riot - many students do not know the difference, it seems :/ That is, of course, assuming these vandals are students.

[Andys]

Most will strongly disagree with the violence in the protests and say it is not needed, but to be fair it is.
I'm not one for voilence and fighting, infact I don't really believe they should be being violent over this, but it's the only way the Government will consider listening. Yes, it's all fine having a song and dance about it, but really? The Government will not listen to that, and will just get on with their jobs, whereas these protests are turning heads and grabbing a lot of media attention, therefore it is more likely that the Government will listen.

[redtom]

Personally I think we should do more than just mess with a van, full on riots will make them change their minds.
Peaceful protests results in nothing, actions get a response.

[Jordy]

We were sat in the middle of a road, and given a five minute warning to move. Literally seconds after this five minute warning police stormed everyone and one officer hit atleast five females sat on the floor on the head with his metal baton coursing major head injuries. As I've stated already today, I'm not condoning injuring people at all and would hate to see anyone injured in this manor however with it being physically seconds after the 'big' man in the yellow jacket attacked atleast five females then theirs always that small sense of satisfaction to see the big man rolling around.

Major head injuries? I assume she's in hospital then..? Or is it more likely he was tapping them and telling them to move. Whilst I somewhat agree there's probably corrupt policemen about (Although I've not encountered any), after the incident at the G20 Riots where a man died they are ridiculously careful. There are also police cameras and the media absolutely everywhere, all of it is recorded so nothing will of cracked off. And the people causing the trouble will find themselves arrested in the next few days and weeks. They've arrested 20 since the protest two weeks ago thanks to video evidence, and they'll be more to come

I can't help but think most the people involved are stupid, the working class will actually be given bigger grants thanks to this new scheme, it's the better off who will be paying more. They're just in there because they want to cause a fuss or because it's "Anti-Tory!", if they actually looked into things I doubt they'd still be protesting. Saw on the news some woman from Cambridge University (God knows how she got in there!) saying the protests were about all the government cuts. Is she completely stupid, as if the government can afford not to make cuts? Then she has a big go at the government for bailing out the banks, I'm sure if she'd of lost all her savings she wouldn't of been best pleased!

[Bun]

i find this whole thing hilarious. most of the liberal vote was composed from students, they won't be making that mistake again haha! also, see that guy who chucked a fire extinguisher off a roof in the first riot? what a bloody tramp.

[Inseriousity.]

see that guy who chucked a fire extinguisher off a roof in the first riot? what a bloody tramp.

with all that hair, thought it looked like Jamesy! aww I feel evil now you've called him a tramp! LOL

Anyway yeah while I can see why people think violence is the answer, it's not really. Sure it'll get people listening but they'll be listening to the wrong messages. For strikes/protests to work, you need public support and if you go smashing up police vans, breaking windows, you're never going to get support!

[Bun]

^ lmao i can see where you're coming from

[FlyingJesus]

Major head injuries? I assume she's in hospital then..?

I'd assume not seeing as how last I checked (and I did check for this specifically) there had only been 11 reports of civilians hospitalised for any reason

There are also police cameras and the media absolutely everywhere, all of it is recorded so nothing will of cracked off.

Good point about police cameras, my most recent interaction with police which was still like over a year ago was when a guy I was with had been spiked and was going mental at the police so they had to subdue him, but they were extremely careful not to do anything excessive and even mentioned that it was all going to be on tape somewhere if he did have any complaints the next day

I can't help but think most the people involved are stupid, the working class will actually be given bigger grants thanks to this new scheme, it's the better off who will be paying more.

I'll admit that I'm guilty of not having actually looked into the proposals until today when I saw about Clegg's speech mentioning how low earners will end up paying a lot less, but that was because I'm not a student at a campus uni and so don't pay tuition fees for my education at all. Anyway yeah it's basically looking like fees can go up a hell of a lot (although it's still down to unis to set the charges really..) but then you don't start paying back the loans until you're earning 21k+ as opposed to the 15k+ that you can currently earn before paying back your loans. As the "average" wage at the moment is around 25k and is brought upwards hugely by those with mega salaries I don't think it will really affect people that badly - and of course if you're earning over 21k a year after uni you're in a far far better position to start paying back loans and still live very comfortably

also, see that guy who chucked a fire extinguisher off a roof in the first riot? what a bloody tramp.

Yeah he had his trial today and pleaded guilty (obv) and sentencing to follow in a different court for some reason

[Moh]

Those who get violent and vandalise are only hindering the protest. If people are going to act that, it's really going to make the government lower tuition fees so that idiots like them can get in.

As for some of them being aggressive towards the police.. the government are cutting down on them, so they're as bad off as us.