Tuition fee rises will not affect Welsh Students!

[Inseriousity.]

Welsh people go to uni?
(hehe only joking sarah, mike etc)

America? People refusing to go to hospital until they're staring death in the face? Paying all that money for university? I'll pass.

Just because we don't live in a country where the fees are higher in a different country doesn't mean we don't have the right to protest over here about it. That's like saying we can't complain about anything in the NHS cos it's free and you have to pay in America.

[Hecktix]

Racists

Seriously: Well if the Scots and the Welsh aren't going to pay then why should it fall on our shoulders to pay higher university fees? I thought EVERYONE had to make cuts, not just the minority who don't get a say because we trusted the British government? I shouldn't complain though, I won't have financial problems for university.



Good luck paying for food, furniture, water, gas, electricity, rent, insurance etc. on 1K per year.

You can complain and you should, whether it's gonna cause you trouble or not it'll cause others trouble, that's enough to complain in my eyes.

[Shar]

No, it called saving and not spending it. Surely you could work that out?

What by walking around naked and starving ourselves? How else will we save that much money..

[Conservative,]

Lol you seem to think it's so easy to walk out into the real world with a debt of £20-30k for students now, and £30-40k for students after 2012. WOO YEAH LET'S TAKE OUT LOADS OF LOANS...

THE MAXIMUM will be £27k debt. I don't know how you worked out £30-£40k...unless you're going to go to America in which case it's more likely to be £50-60k.

How would you like to be stuck with debt hanging over your head for years? I don't think you can see the importance of it. Being in debt isn't exactly reassuring especially if you haven't even worked and brought a house etc. In your early 20s you shouldn't have to be in debt.

You always make yourself sound as if you live in some Mansion in Surrey, Robbie.

I wish. I have a plan, I'll do it. It may not be easy to live with debt hanging over you head. But millions of people have done it and do it every year?

20K debt as well your earning 21K. I worked out that you can pay your debt completely by 3 years, that completely nothing. Stop moaning, it not like we are unlucky. Maybe you all should live in a america.

Although I question the time you have said, I agree. We are VERY lucky. People are just selfish money-hogging *******. This IS NOT much. As he said. Go live in America. Then you'll be ****** grateful for our tertiary education.



And just letting you guys know...I live in a semi-detached house just outside London with 5 bedrooms. Ok maybe slightly above average but I'm by no means rich like a few of my friends. I will be taking a student loan like everyone else and I will be paying it off like everyone else. The difference is I have ambition and the realisation that people are far worse off than me.

And Shar. It is complaining. It may be an opinion that it's too expensive. But it's also complaining. That's like me saying to my teacher getting a detention for not doing my homework is unfair, he tells me to stop complaining then I say it's not complaining. It is, but it's also an opinion. I just think some people need to go into the big wide world and realise how lucky they are.

[Inseriousity.]

THE MAXIMUM will be £27k debt. I don't know how you worked out £30-£40k...unless you're going to go to America in which case it's more likely to be £50-60k.

haha that's for your course. You still have to eat, pay lots of money for student accomodation etc etc so 30-40k is around about right.

[-:Undertaker:-]

You can complain and you should, whether it's gonna cause you trouble or not it'll cause others trouble, that's enough to complain in my eyes.

While I understand the anger at the rise, I have one question which will see how much you (and many others really care about the issue); are you going to vote Labour come next election? if the answer is yes then there really is no point in complaining or protesting as Labour also told lies during 2001 over this very issue and more to the point they brought the fees in in the first place. If the answer is no, then there's no hypocrisy which is good and means you actually have a cause/a poin in this debate.

In terms of devolution, that is the way devolution works - it is down to the Welsh Assembly/Scottish Parliament how and where they allocate funding (this was also a Labour policy, devolution). What is wrong about the funding of the United Kingdom is the way in which England pays most of the bills, and by that I mean; more is spent per head on those in Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales than those in England (known as the Barnett formula) - funding should be equal for parts of the Kingdom.

[Hecktix]

THE MAXIMUM will be £27k debt. I don't know how you worked out £30-£40k...unless you're going to go to America in which case it's more likely to be £50-60k.



I wish. I have a plan, I'll do it. It may not be easy to live with debt hanging over you head. But millions of people have done it and do it every year?



Although I question the time you have said, I agree. We are VERY lucky. People are just selfish money-hogging *******. This IS NOT much. As he said. Go live in America. Then you'll be ****** grateful for our tertiary education.



And just letting you guys know...I live in a semi-detached house just outside London with 5 bedrooms. Ok maybe slightly above average but I'm by no means rich like a few of my friends. I will be taking a student loan like everyone else and I will be paying it off like everyone else. The difference is I have ambition and the realisation that people are far worse off than me.

And Shar. It is complaining. It may be an opinion that it's too expensive. But it's also complaining. That's like me saying to my teacher getting a detention for not doing my homework is unfair, he tells me to stop complaining then I say it's not complaining. It is, but it's also an opinion. I just think some people need to go into the big wide world and realise how lucky they are.

It would seem to me, you have no idea about finances Robbie. I currently have a loan of £8,000 a year to cover my tuition fees, accommodation and living expenses.

£3000 tuition fees
£5000 maintenance

£8,000 x 3 years = £24,000

Okay, so now assume that's paying the minimum fees of £6,000, that would increase my loan to £11,000.

£11,000 x 3 years = £33,000 and that is the minimum.

[Chippiewill]

I miss them days when the Government paid for us to go to university and companies paid for everything else in university life. I never experienced them but I'm sure they were nice n' cosy.

[Hecktix]

While I understand the anger at the rise, I have one question which will see how much you (and many others really care about the issue); are you going to vote Labour come next election? if the answer is yes then there really is no point in complaining or protesting as Labour also told lies during 2001 over this very issue and more to the point they brought the fees in in the first place. If the answer is no, then there's no hypocrisy which is good and means you actually have a cause/a poin in this debate.

In terms of devolution, that is the way devolution works - it is down to the Welsh Assembly/Scottish Parliament how and where they allocate funding (this was also a Labour policy, devolution). What is wrong about the funding of the United Kingdom is the way in which England pays most of the bills, and by that I mean; more is spent per head on those in Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales than those in England (known as the Barnett formula) - funding should be equal for parts of the Kingdom.

I shall vote for the party I believe will make a difference, whoever that may be in 2015. It certainly won't be Conservative. Labour may have lied in the past however Labour may be the reason this tuition fees increase doesn't get through Parliament.

[Conservative,]

There is no minimum Oli. And maybe you need a job? I don't mean to be rude, but if you;re using that kind of money with no kind of income then I think you need something to pay at least a bit of it back. If you do I'm sorry but then if you are then you've missed it out with your calculations

As I said, there is no minimum and actually £6,000 is the maximum unless they offer extensive and very high benefits and reductions to poorer students as well as scholarships.