World Cup 2018 and 2022

[Grig]

Not really. Look at your bid and look at the conditions, stadia, fans, resources, presentations, etc. and then compare it to the other three bids, and try and tell me that Russia was the best choice to host the World Cup. It's just a ridiculous decision which I can in no way understand. Spain-Portugal would of been by far the better choice if I'm not being biast.

Oh and I'd love to hear your argument as to why you think I'm a "stereotypical" grumpy ****.

Yeh, I found the bid pretty up to Fifa standards; what specifics are you saying were so negative?

[Suspective]

FIFA would of spent a lot of time looking at the bid and making sure it met the minimum standards for both stadia and infrastructure. Russia are a relatively wealthy country, so they will be able to pull it off without a hitch. If FIFA believed it wouldn't be possible for the Russians to hold the World Cup they wouldn't of reached the final voting stage.

[luce]

I literally hope racist ***** get out of this forum.


Anyway woooo for Russia. We got it, and damn it we have 4 billion dollars to do it. So GOOOD news!

since when the hell were you russian :\ also it's not racism i don't see how russia has that amount of money to build a WC off the ground when their economy is struggling. It will be over budget and under prepared on top of that about 12 journeys between venues.

England could have hosted this tomorrow.

and mrjordan did you not watch panorama the Fifa reps are about as bent as Stalin himself.

and i'm not being I HATE IT COZ ENGLAND DIDN'T GET IT i'm being i hate it because England should have got it then SPAIN then Russian then qatar.

[AgnesIO]

since when the hell were you russian :\ also it's not racism i don't see how russia has that amount of money to build a WC off the ground when their economy is struggling. It will be over budget and under prepared on top of that about 12 journeys between venues.

England could have hosted this tomorrow.

I could have sworn he was english :L Doesn't sound Russian when he DJ'd on hxl?

I would have loved Spain/Portugal to get it, although England would have been quality (even easier for me to go and see).. but Russia? All they are good for is cold wars.

[Suspective]

I did watch it, and I am not particularly happy about it. I would of much rather England won it. We have the infrastructure, people, teams and stadiums. We just do not have the legacy of being able to host our First World Cup and the first for our area of Europe. Even so, I really do believe that they were bribed and paid off - Russia has a reputation for being corrupt. Looking at 2022, the Arabic countries are rich.

We probably would of won it, if the media weren't set on digging up dirt. Fair enough, they should be unmasked. But at the end of the day, we could of had a World Cup held here.

[luce]

I did watch it, and I am not particularly happy about it. I would of much rather England won it. We have the infrastructure, people, teams and stadiums. We just do not have the legacy of being able to host our First World Cup and the first for our area of Europe. Even so, I really do believe that they were bribed and paid off - Russia has a reputation for being corrupt. Looking at 2022, the Arabic countries are rich.

We probably would of won it, if the media weren't set on digging up dirt. Fair enough, they should be unmasked. But at the end of the day, we could of had a World Cup held here.

I could have sworn he was english :L Doesn't sound Russian when he DJ'd on hxl?

I would have loved Spain/Portugal to get it, although England would have been quality (even easier for me to go and see).. but Russia? All they are good for is cold wars.

yeah well i worked with him at HxL for over a year and knew him and i thought always that he was English and that sometimes he was back home in england. I know he's also lived in NZ or HK but meh i'm not arguing with him over his nationality if he wants to claim they won the WC then he can have fun with that actually for a fact he was in UK because he wasn't an international DJ all the time.

Also the Russian president/tsar/dictator didn't even turn up what does that say? done deal?

And russia aren't even good for cold wars they hid behind a wall for decades

MrJordan fair play to you

[-Heart]

Yeh, I found the bid pretty up to Fifa standards; what specifics are you saying were so negative?

You say up to Fifa's standards, but you have no idea what goes in behind the scenes at Fifa. Even if it was, it wasn't the stand out bid by any means. All you need to do is look at the passion and love of the game in the bids of England and Spain-Portugal compared to Russia, to realise that this decision was woeful. The conditions ver there are going to be awful, and the transportation especially from game to game is going to be extremely difficult and crowded. Having a World Cup in a country as big as Russia is a serious, serious risk.

Then we come on to the stadiums. Russia's biggest proposed stadiums for their World Cup are going to be 89,000 and 65,000 respectively, with a number of 45,000-50,000 capacity sized stadiums. If chosen, England had prepared to put forward a 90,000 capacity seated stadium, TWO 80,000 capacity seated stadiums, a 75,000 capacity seated stadium, a 72,000 capacity seated stadiums, FOUR 60,000-70,000 capacity seated stadiums, and THREE 50,000 capacity seated stadiums. The sheer numbers alone make the England bid, certainly in terms of stadia, much more superior. The resources available to England are much more impressive than Russia's, and you've got to ask yourself how many visiting fans will come in to watch a World Cup in Russia. I'd imagine there would be a lower amount than in recent World Cups, as it just doesn't have that great appeal that the bids of England/Spain-Portugal do. There's much more of an attraction for both bids. England is the birthplace of football. It features some of the most famous football clubs and stadiums in the world. Meanwhile Spain-Portugal would feature the current World Champions, and the conditions would be much more people friendly.

That's basically the core of my argument here.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Well let's be honest, its all about making money for the corrupt FIFA and obviously Russia is offering the best returns on investment (to the shady corrupt FIFA executives) - so if i'm quite honest, i'd want nothing to do with FIFA now or in the future and i'm glad our media exposed them for the slimebags they are. In terms of cost, the world cup (as I understand it) does not cost as much as the dreadful waste of money known as the Olympic Games and apparently you make a return on hosting a World Cup - although I wouldn't put it past our politicians to be able to make a loss instead.

I literally hope racist ***** get out of this forum.

There's always one clown who will bring up racism.

[luce]

England only got 2 votes in the first round of voting out of 22 votes. WOW. SSN official btw

[Deak]

England only got 2 votes in the first round of voting out of 22 votes. WOW. SSN official btw

Wow thats bad & they were saying we were favorites and gave them a good reasons to host the WC