Tuition fee rises will not affect Welsh Students!

[Chippiewill]

Get what you're given and be grateful.

What you really said:

NANANANANA, NOT LISTENING

[FlyingJesus]

Get what you're given and be grateful.

Well that was silly, now this can be quoted to you whenever you complain about anything ever

[Conservative,]

Well that was silly, now this can be quoted to you whenever you complain about anything ever

Meh. My mum says that to me all the time lol. But in this case it fits well.

[AgnesIO]

I wish the British government would see some ******* sense and not raise the fees. Some people don't realise they 20+k of debt is NOT that easy to get out of.

I am hoping to do the "Bachelor of Laws (Honours)" course - and even though my family has money, university - if fees rise - will be a big strain.

Can't believe I would EVER say this, but can I be welsh?

[Chippiewill]

Meh. My mum says that to me all the time lol. But in this case it fits well.

Under your argument no one could ever complain, if no one every complained then something that is broken or wrong would not and could not be fixed. You have used your phrase as a cop out as you realise that your argument is ever diminishing. In fact, the response you gave completely ignored everything which I had stated which was addressing an identical statement to the one you delivered afterwards, and you say that I'M the one ignoring the point. Sir - I had already addressed the point.

[Conservative,]

It's not a cop out. And in this case "get what you're given and be grateful" is very applicable..but it's not in all cases I admit. People need to actually just be quiet and get on with their lives, or if they don't like it, do something proper about it, not go around smashing windows. It's not a big increase, and the Welsh assembly have decided to spend their money on this. Personally I'd rather have good health care than cheaper Universities.

[Catzsy]

It's not a cop out. And in this case "get what you're given and be grateful" is very applicable..but it's not in all cases I admit. People need to actually just be quiet and get on with their lives, or if they don't like it, do something proper about it, not go around smashing windows. It's not a big increase, and the Welsh assembly have decided to spend their money on this. Personally I'd rather have good health care than cheaper Universities.

It is a huge increase. Double for most people and some will pay 9k a year. That is a debt of 27k in tuition fees before paying for rent, food , books etc etc. It is desperately unfair and collecting tax from people who avoid it at all costs would be a lot fairer - there is a huge sum not paid every year. Also the vast majority of students were law abiding. If you watched the footage of the smashed windows the people doing it were wearing black and balaclavas - the uniform for the fascists and anti capitalists who had infiltrated the rally. The trouble is the media fail to point this out and play on the negative.

[Chippiewill]

It's not a cop out. And in this case "get what you're given and be grateful" is very applicable..but it's not in all cases I admit. People need to actually just be quiet and get on with their lives, or if they don't like it, do something proper about it, not go around smashing windows. It's not a big increase, and the Welsh assembly have decided to spend their money on this. Personally I'd rather have good health care than cheaper Universities.

You could say that about ANY complaint, your argument is flawed - everything is relative and as far as I'm concerned, relative is how it is; for US, for NOW. You say it's not a big increase but for some it is, I'm sure it's very easy to say that cosied up in your Mansion eh? Naturally you'd prefer the health care because for university, you're sorted - some, not so lucky.

[Conservative,]

You could say that about ANY complaint, your argument is flawed - everything is relative and as far as I'm concerned, relative is how it is; for US, for NOW. You say it's not a big increase but for some it is, I'm sure it's very easy to say that cosied up in your Mansion eh? Naturally you'd prefer the health care because for university, you're sorted - some, not so lucky.

I'm not sorted for University? lol. I'm going to be paying the debts like everyone else. I just think compared to around the world people are complaining about nothing. It's £9k a year? So what. Want to pay £50k a year? No didn't think so. It's like someone saying "I'm starving" and complaining they haven't had anything to eat for a few hours, but people in 3rd world countries haven't had anything to eat for days and they're not complaining. It's the simple fact we've got used to our cushy everyone gets everything for free and if we don't we make a fuss. We need to get out of that it's no good to anyone.

[Catzsy]

I'm not sorted for University? lol. I'm going to be paying the debts like everyone else. I just think compared to around the world people are complaining about nothing. It's £9k a year? So what. Want to pay £50k a year? No didn't think so. It's like someone saying "I'm starving" and complaining they haven't had anything to eat for a few hours, but people in 3rd world countries haven't had anything to eat for days and they're not complaining. It's the simple fact we've got used to our cushy everyone gets everything for free and if we don't we make a fuss. We need to get out of that it's no good to anyone.

No reply to my post. There is a great deal of difference between having it cushy and being expected to pay this amount. It is estimated that tax evasion costs this country 70 billion a year and put that against benefit fraud of 1billion a year it certainly puts that into perspective.
Link:
http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2...venue-customs/

Why don't they try sorting that out as opposed to hammering the students with such draconian increases?