£3,000 spent on Christmas & 'guess what - you're paying for it'

[Moh]

My mums working and can only just afford to spend that on me and my sister and then people on benefits can seam to spend that without having to work for it.

[Swastika]

£300-£400 is actually quite reasonable to spend on a child, however when you have multiple children that should be cut drastically - ever heard that the only child is a spoilt child? That is why.
Absolutely ridiculous that she has managed to save that up for EACH child, feed, clothe and bath all year round aswell?
She probably earns a fortune due to the fact she has an army of children, disgraceful women she is - yet people who have the exact same number of children and are working will probably earn far less.
We need a system where the un-employed get sent to courses and are MADE to work or go into national service. If you can't get a job, (which is always a lie), you should be forced to join an armed service in my opinion. See these young brave men dying in battlefields? It should be these despicable creatures that leech off the country who are coming home in coffins - that's where they belong.
I actually know a man, he lives not far from me, who won't go to work because he gets MORE money on the dole than he does if he works a 8 hour shift 7 days a week AND he paints on the side for cash in hand.
Absolutely disgusting - we need an actual political party which would CREATE jobs for people, then there would be far less excuses.

[cocaine]

If you can't get a job, (which is always a lie)

kinda contradictory when you go on to say

we need an actual political party which would CREATE jobs for people

but whatever.
the only reason the government are limited in creating jobs is because public projects such as new roads, hospitals, schools, etc cost millions of pounds and in an era of cutting the budget deficit (BIG question mark surrounding this.. especially with the increase in foreign aid, absolutely unneccessary and completely irresponsible..) creating new jobs atm probably won't even be viable.

[-:Undertaker:-]

The problem with creating jobs is that government cannot create jobs, state sector jobs are a drain on the wealth creating sector and the bigger the state sector the small the private sector becomes because it is the private sector which generates the wealth for the state sector to gobble up. The only way you will create jobs and a real economy is by cutting the public sector right back (because we cant afford it this big, its an economic fact of life) which would then allow you to lower taxes and thus more private sector jobs come into being.

The period under the last government was high unemployment throughout its term, even though it created hundreds of thousands/millions of public sector jobs which of course in turn ended in the closing of the private sector as it could not afford the tax burden levied on it. I mean you only have to look at real unemployment figures to see that when Thatcher cut the state sector (hence the large peak in unemployment) the recovery was by the private sector which prospered thanks to her tax cuts and the ending of masses and masses of red tape and regulation which stifles growth;

Thatcher 1979 to 1990
Major/Blair and Brown 1990 onwards

Then again, we can't cut regulation now because we have political parties in office which are dedicated to big government and government interference (the Lib/Lab/Con) along with regulation which comes from the European Union which we have no control over and no powers to prevent until we leave the ridiculous thing.

What a mess.

[Chippiewill]

£300-£400 is actually quite reasonable to spend on a child, however when you have multiple children that should be cut drastically - ever heard that the only child is a spoilt child? That is why.

If you're fairly well off then that's fair on one child. On benefits it's actually quite easy as well because you get a set amount per child.

If you can't get a job, (which is always a lie), you should be forced to join an armed service in my opinion.

a) It's not WW1/WW2, we don't need conscription
b) Of course, because single mothers with four children should go to war in Afghanistan/Iraq leaving their children with .. oh wait.

[ifuseekamy]

In fairness it says that she saved, they're trying to make it sound like she got enough to pay all that in one bundle. Spoiling them isn't going to change the fact they're council housed povos though lol.

[Moh]

£300-£400 is actually quite reasonable to spend on a child, however when you have multiple children that should be cut drastically - ever heard that the only child is a spoilt child? That is why.
Absolutely ridiculous that she has managed to save that up for EACH child, feed, clothe and bath all year round aswell?
She probably earns a fortune due to the fact she has an army of children, disgraceful women she is - yet people who have the exact same number of children and are working will probably earn far less.
We need a system where the un-employed get sent to courses and are MADE to work or go into national service. If you can't get a job, (which is always a lie), you should be forced to join an armed service in my opinion. See these young brave men dying in battlefields? It should be these despicable creatures that leech off the country who are coming home in coffins - that's where they belong.
I actually know a man, he lives not far from me, who won't go to work because he gets MORE money on the dole than he does if he works a 8 hour shift 7 days a week AND he paints on the side for cash in hand.
Absolutely disgusting - we need an actual political party which would CREATE jobs for people, then there would be far less excuses.

You really think people who cannot get jobs should be FORCED to go to war? So once I finish Uni, I won't be able to get a job straight away, so what you're saying I should go into the army after getting the education, just throw it away and go into the army?

The government should really not create any more jobs, it's the government jobs that are causing this country to get into so much debt. The public sector is paid for the private sector, but the public sector is BIGGER than the private sector which really shouldn't be. If the government cut down on jobs, the private sector would then be able to make a profit from this and create their own jobs. Since that would mean the government would be getting more from tax (since the tax will be coming from private sector jobs and not public sector jobs), tax would decrease and the private sector would be able to create even more jobs since their expenditure would be lower.

[Snatter]

I actually know a man, he lives not far from me, who won't go to work because he gets MORE money on the dole than he does if he works a 8 hour shift 7 days a week AND he paints on the side for cash in hand.

Same here - but the thing is, this guy that I know is really nice and generous. He's not lazy, he doesn't sit around the house all day and he is extremely skillful - in fact, he's known for being the 'computer guy' around an area which is local to me and he doesn't charge anyone for computer repairs.
Thing is, one of his sons is a professional footballer in a big UK club and I'm guessing he's sending big money home every week. It's ridiculous. I see people who are on the dole driving around in flashier cars than the working class.

This man could be making a FORTUNE if he actually decided to work and stop taking money from the taxpayers.

[Swastika]

kinda contradictory when you go on to say
but whatever.

Not really.

If you're fairly well off then that's fair on one child. On benefits it's actually quite easy as well because you get a set amount per child.
a) It's not WW1/WW2, we don't need conscription
b) Of course, because single mothers with four children should go to war in Afghanistan/Iraq leaving their children with .. oh wait.

You don't need to be well off to save £300-£400 for one child, a whole gang of them is a different story.
I didn't say go to war, i said join the armed forces - how about you read my posts next time?
There are alot more jobs these bums could be doing in the army rather than sitting at home, having more kids who they can't afford etc.

You really think people who cannot get jobs should be FORCED to go to war? So once I finish Uni, I won't be able to get a job straight away, so what you're saying I should go into the army after getting the education, just throw it away and go into the army?.

Once again i did not say war, i said the army or another armed forces.
Just because your in the armed forces doesn't mean your going to end up in Afghanistan.
I believe that if your sitting around doing nothing, leeching off the country then you should be infact made to join the army (or navy or RAF) and actually give back to the country for all the money you've leeched off of us taxpayers.
It makes complete sense, the fact your arguing against it is absolutely ridiculous - do you have any respect for your country or nationality?
You should not be sent to the army straight away, absolutely no way, but there should defiantly be a limit on how long you can stay on the dole before your made to either work or give back to the country by means of national service.

Same here - but the thing is, this guy that I know is really nice and generous. He's not lazy, he doesn't sit around the house all day and he is extremely skillful - in fact, he's known for being the 'computer guy' around an area which is local to me and he doesn't charge anyone for computer repairs.
Thing is, one of his sons is a professional footballer in a big UK club and I'm guessing he's sending big money home every week. It's ridiculous. I see people who are on the dole driving around in flashier cars than the working class.
This man could be making a FORTUNE if he actually decided to work and stop taking money from the taxpayers.

He has absolutely no motivation, after all not many people do living in this country anymore.
Don't get me wrong i am a proud British man but our country is seen as an easy target for immigrants and asylum seekers, we get absolutely walked all over on.

Another election.
Vote in a independence party or hopefully the BNP, leave the EU, withdraw from Afghanistan, put a cap on the length of time you can be on the dole, re-introduce national service, create jobs and re-create British pride and nationalism.
Job done.

[Moh]

Once again i did not say war, i said the army or another armed forces.
Just because your in the armed forces doesn't mean your going to end up in Afghanistan.
I believe that if your sitting around doing nothing, leeching off the country then you should be infact made to join the army (or navy or RAF) and actually give back to the country for all the money you've leeched off of us taxpayers.
It makes complete sense, the fact your arguing against it is absolutely ridiculous - do you have any respect for your country or nationality?
You should not be sent to the army straight away, absolutely no way, but there should defiantly be a limit on how long you can stay on the dole before your made to either work or give back to the country by means of national service.

Considering "armed forces" is either the army, the navy or the RAF then after your training, you're going to end up in a war fighting for oil.

So to have respect for the country, that automatically means you should risk your life for it? I respect a lot of people, doesn't mean I would risk my life for them either.

The last thing I would want is some idiotic chav be allowed access to a gun.