oli / matt / agm team

[xxMATTGxx]

And anyone else who has resigned as well clearly then, since Oli and Martin did? So there is no reason for department manages to try and aim for promotion of others who resigned come back before them.

There is reasons for them to aim for promotion, it just doesn't always go their way or to them. But General Management doesn't change on a daily/monthly basis and most of us are here long term.

[Samantha]

I disagree, it's nothing to do with ease of replacement or whether someone will need to be replaced, it is all about the best person for the job itself, If 80% of our Department Managers left their role (via promotion or departure) I could name a suitable replacement right here right now.

All the assistants? Apart from forum/graphics as there aren't one. (If I missed a department out I apologize .)


I'm all for the best person for the job. I just think more people should be given a chance, or at least considered if not.

[scott]

All the assistants? Apart from forum/graphics as there aren't one. (If I missed a department out I apologize .)


I'm all for the best person for the job. I just think more people should be given a chance, or at least considered if not.

Gonna have to say here but I know for all promotions within habbox more than one person is considered for a promotion. I know when I was management at habboxlive we had a list of at least 4/5 people most times to decide between on promotions so I don't think promotions are just rushed into without any thought

[Chippiewill]

I disagree, it's nothing to do with ease of replacement or whether someone will need to be replaced, it is all about the best person for the job itself, If 80% of our Department Managers left their role (via promotion or departure) I could name a suitable replacement right here right now.

But if someone looks snug and comfortable in their job like Martin was or as David is now then you would likely not consider them as a first choice. However say today David left but wanted to help out somewhere and tomorrow Alkaz also did so then David would be an obvious choice because he has managerial experience, wants to be back and would not be disrupting any departments in doing so (Although David would happily continue his current roles and take on new roles anyway ).

[Samantha]

Gonna have to say here but I know for all promotions within habbox more than one person is considered for a promotion. I know when I was management at habboxlive we had a list of at least 4/5 people most times to decide between on promotions so I don't think promotions are just rushed into without any thought

Oh I understand that I didn't mean it in that way. I just mean Habbox has an exceptionally good Assistant Manager base at the moment so they would probably be the best people to take up the role.

[Inseriousity.]

Personally, when people resign from comps, I make them apply again to prove to me they want to return to the department for the right reasons. However, for general management, my opinion is slightly different in that there are a number of suitable people for the job outside of the department management (including those who resign) team that would do just as good a job. I'll be honest and I'm perfectly happy working beside Martin but I was crossing my fingers for Rosie to have a second chance as I remember when she was AGM before and she would've been a good one if it wasn't for the illness. The point being that this time, she was only a forum (super?) moderator.

[AgnesIO]

I don't think it's a case of people resigning just to get a higher position at all. They were obviously just the right people for the job and I completely agree with all General Management changes over the past however many months.

Can we be honest here though, Nicola? Nobody leaves because they don't have enough time, then suddenly gain enough time to do an even more time consuming job

Also, we all know Oli was never going to leave. It is similar to me saying I am never going to post again. Yeah, right!

I dont think we can expect changes any time soon, but hey I might be wrong.

Although I would love to see some changes

[Mathew]

I just mean Habbox has an exceptionally good Assistant Manager base at the moment

I completely agree.

I think the point everyone is trying to make is.. it's odd how someone can resign due to "lack of time" (oh how poetic), but then they find the time to come back at a higher "status" (if you will). Obviously if you had to resign for reasons then you'd have no interest in returning with more responsibility.

But then again, I'm not moaning. In all seriousness, I do think Martin is a fabulous Community AGM, and he resigned fully and came back, so hey.. I'm really not wanting to complain. At the end of the day, it really does come down to who is the best person for the job. From trialist to department management, there is a system and a structure to it; people know the ranks and people know the next promotion step.. but once it goes to General Management, we need to remember that this isn't structured and it shouldn't be structured. It's all down to choosing the best.

[Samantha]

I completely agree.

I think the point everyone is trying to make is.. it's odd how someone can resign due to "lack of time" (oh how poetic), but then they find the time to come back at a higher "status" (if you will). Obviously if you had to resign for reasons then you'd have no interest in returning with more responsibility.

But then again, I'm not moaning. In all seriousness, I do think Martin is a fabulous Community AGM, and he resigned fully and came back, so hey.. I'm really not wanting to complain. At the end of the day, it really does come down to who is the best person for the job. From trialist to department management, there is a system and a structure to it; people know the ranks and people know the next promotion step.. but once it goes to General Management, we need to remember that this isn't structured and it shouldn't be structured. It's all down to choosing the best.

I do understand where you are coming from, and I do agree it is the best person for the job.
However, I still do think it should be the same for all departments.

Also agreeing with Matt, the reason people resigned was because they didn't have enough time I will agree people have been saying it they have came back with a more time consuming job. I think Habbox needs fresh faces.

[-Danube-]

Only read bits at the top about bringing back resigned Dept. Managers as General management and this is my comment:

When someone is given General Management they must now give up their role as a Dept. Manager to concentrate on their AGM role. I don't think Matt/Jin wants to take managers who are good at what they do out of their departments as that could be bad for the Dept. If they have the opportunity to bring someone back who is good enough to be AGM and wants to do it, then fair play to them!

Not gonna lie, would love the opportunity to be part of GM but i'd seriously think twice about taking the role knowing that i'd have to give up Rare Values. And i'm sure many other Dept. Managers would think twice too and may even reject the offer such as Mike and David who both love their depts.

Thats my piece anyway. I hope none of them leave, we've had enough GM changes for a while thankyou!