HabboxLive Ideas

[AgnesIO]

Unlike many of my colleagues, I think merging the sites may actually help IF, and this is IF an easy to update user system is given to management so that sites can be updated without any problems, which was what the problem was before.

This is essential. If the radio department management cannot update things as and when they need to, this will flop completely. But I will get in there before anyone else I am sure Version Six will cater for this!!

[Conservative,]

This is essential. If the radio department management cannot update things as and when they need to, this will flop completely. But I will get in there before anyone else I am sure Version Six will cater for this!!

IF it comes. Lol. But I agree with both of you. The merge of HxL & Hx would help but James & Gem need to be able to update the site easily. That's all that stands in the way really.

[FlyingJesus]

I'm obviously not an avid listener but I do whack on HxL every now and then - by clicking the "Habbox" link at the top of the forum. Today is the first time I have ever been on the actual HxL site because I've always listened through the main page, and I quite agree with Dom and others who've said that the radio extras could be put onto the main site. It's not a big deal and I can't see what disadvantages there are to such a decision - the two sites are out of sync with each other anyway so having both open (as I'm sure many listeners from the hotel may do) means having to turn the radio off on one, and then what's the point of having it there? Whack it all together and as long as it's looked after properly with the right people having the right access you'll get more use out of the site and the users will do too

[Hecktix]

IF it comes. Lol. But I agree with both of you. The merge of HxL & Hx would help but James & Gem need to be able to update the site easily. That's all that stands in the way really.

An old woman could update v6 if given appropriate access, it is the easiest administration system I have used in my entire life, so no it doesn't stand in the way.

[Mrs.McCall]

So the articles/news team could choose a listener of the week? Song reviews and especially playlists are music related so it makes sense that DJs/the habboxlive department should be preparing them rather than the articles team. I suppose they could do it if it ever was to be merged but you don't have any stats to show how many people use the habboxlive site alone so you can't say that having a seperate site doesn't work anymore .

This is where I disagree fully. When I was managing news with Martin we were going to do this, but HxL decided to go against everything and do it themselves. I do not understand why. DJs are not article or news writers, the professionalism and quality of such articles will shoot up if they are done by the news and articles team. I know for a fact that a bulk of the team there listen to music and can analyze songs very well, and do it much more thoroughly then they are done now .

I don't see why this wouldn't work! If you look on the Articles page, Harry has done a fantastic and extremely well written review of some of the best songs as voted by Habbox users. I think Articles integration would be great.

Yeah HxL did merge with Hx.com once but it wasn't done very well and radio management kicked off a bit. It's worth remembering that Habbox.com uses a god damn awful back end administration system so it probably was bad having HxL on Hx.com then however I personally believe Habbox.com v6 has huge potential for HxL - not saying HxL will be moving onto the site for v6 though - not immediately anyway.

Yeah, I was around for that. The HxL staff didn't exactly give it chance to be fair.

I'm obviously not an avid listener but I do whack on HxL every now and then - by clicking the "Habbox" link at the top of the forum. Today is the first time I have ever been on the actual HxL site because I've always listened through the main page, and I quite agree with Dom and others who've said that the radio extras could be put onto the main site. It's not a big deal and I can't see what disadvantages there are to such a decision - the two sites are out of sync with each other anyway so having both open (as I'm sure many listeners from the hotel may do) means having to turn the radio off on one, and then what's the point of having it there? Whack it all together and as long as it's looked after properly with the right people having the right access you'll get more use out of the site and the users will do too

I agree. I often catch it on the site (when my cookies are cleared and the player is enabled) and often, I'll stay tuned in. It'd be interesting to see the total visitors to Habboxlive.com vs Habbox.com to see how much of a difference it makes.

I'm about to make a controversial point now and I apologise for generalising but I find a lot of the issue is the Habboxlive staff. Now, I was Habboxlive staff and I was actually on the air when the maximum amount of listeners was increased to 100 (I think it was 100). So I know how change can work and Adzeh was always an advocate for it. However, I have noticed that the managers after Adzeh and certainly the staff have been reluctant to integrate themselves with other departments. Almost as if they are scared of change. Now I know there are arguments for the fact that other departments don't mingle in well with others but I would say that Habboxlive are very 'pally' and they don't like the idea of integration when, a lot of the time, it'd actually benefit them.

I think if the staff became more open to feedback and change, they'd find that they'd actually benefit.

[AgnesIO]

I don't see why this wouldn't work! If you look on the Articles page, Harry has done a fantastic and extremely well written review of some of the best songs as voted by Habbox users. I think Articles integration would be great.



Yeah, I was around for that. The HxL staff didn't exactly give it chance to be fair.



I agree. I often catch it on the site (when my cookies are cleared and the player is enabled) and often, I'll stay tuned in. It'd be interesting to see the total visitors to Habboxlive.com vs Habbox.com to see how much of a difference it makes.

I'm about to make a controversial point now and I apologise for generalising but I find a lot of the issue is the Habboxlive staff. Now, I was Habboxlive staff and I was actually on the air when the maximum amount of listeners was increased to 100 (I think it was 100). So I know how change can work and Adzeh was always an advocate for it. However, I have noticed that the managers after Adzeh and certainly the staff have been reluctant to integrate themselves with other departments. Almost as if they are scared of change. Now I know there are arguments for the fact that other departments don't mingle in well with others but I would say that Habboxlive are very 'pally' and they don't like the idea of integration when, a lot of the time, it'd actually benefit them.

I think if the staff became more open to feedback and change, they'd find that they'd actually benefit.

I whole heartedly agree with this. As much as I don't want to rip the department apart, and ruin it for the staff - I do think that the department wants to be by itself - but the reality is the only way Habbox will grow, as well as the department itself, is by joining in with the rest of Habbox.

[Gemma]

To be honest, variety on the radio is pretty good, I'm always seeing songs from a range of genres and ages being played. Although, sometimes it may be hard for DJs to play such variety if they're being flooded with requests - obviously, what the listeners want comes first, and if listeners wants to here some older tracks, they're free to send in what they'd like to be played. We have quite a few perm shows at the moment which all bring something different, so I don't see the whole point about not having enough themed shows, if a DJ wants to hold a special themed show, then they can ask and it'll most likely be approved.

I disagree with getting rid of DJ at the front of names, if a DJ wants to say DJ, then they can, if they don't want to then that's up to them. I don't find it childish at all, 'DJ' is a real life term which I'm seeing being used on adverts for parties, clubs, etc all the time. I think that's just getting a bit picky, because it's seriously not a big deal at all.

It really gets to me when people start critising the ages of DJs and start saying things like younger DJs talk about a load of **** while playing Barbie (which someone said in this thread). That's a load of rubbish, and you're just assuming what younger DJs are like when they clearly aren't; if anything, the younger DJs try harder to be more professional. I don't see any younger DJs being any more 'immature' than the older DJs, the overall on air maturity level is the pretty much the same, regardless of age. If anything, having younger DJs is a bennefit, they generally have more time and are able to stick around for a lot longer, therefore leading them to go further within the department and creating a larger listener base.

There is no need for 10 minute slots on a server to check DJs before they are hired, about 99% of DJs that we hire turn out to be amazing and do a brilliant job anyway. A 1 minute clip and a written application is enough to determine the quality of the applicant, we do not need anything else. I know it was mentioned that clubhabbo used a trial server, but I didn't see them with any groundbreaking DJs, and we don't find ourselves with DJs that don't know what they're doing anymore than they do.

I think the overall quality of DJs has improved. DJs do know how to use Sam Broadcaster, and if they have any problems they ask, and then the problems are quickly resolved and they can start DJing at their maximum potential. With Oli saying that DJs don't get helped enough, that is not true at all. James, Sam and I are always getting asked for help and we're always there to give it! Show feedbacks are still being sent out (though I do agree they should be sent more often), and they help the DJ to improve on any errors. Some people mentioned about DJs singing in songs and taking songs off the air if the DJ doesn't like it, I don't see that at all, but if anything like that were to happen it'd be dropped into a feedback PM! Anyway, it's not like we go around hiring DJs that have no idea on what they're doing just for the sake of hiring a certain amount of DJs etc to "fill the timetable" as Grig said, because each application is checked thouroughly, and if we don't have enough successful applicants, we won't hire them for the sake of it. Everyone who ends up getting a trial, deserves a trial.

I would like to see a new layout being introduced around the same time as V6, this one is getting outdated and I'm sure something far better could be produced. Though I fully disagree with merging HabboxLive with Habbox, and I know that James and Sam do too. Why do we disagree? There's several reasons - it's been working fine for years (even before listeners started to drop, so it's not the cause of that), Habbox already lags lots, so with so much extra content it would be like lag city, it could take listeners who aren't interested in news, rare values etc away, it'll make song reviews/playlist less read, it may be hard to update the site, if Habbox.com crashed, viewers/listeners would have nowhere else to go apart from other fansites, there may not be enough room for all content, it could fail like last time, and it's just pointless, and I know that many members of previous Radio Management agree.

[Sarah]

I would like to see a new layout being introduced around the same time as V6, this one is getting outdated and I'm sure something far better could be produced. Though I fully disagree with merging HabboxLive with Habbox, and I know that James and Sam do too. Why do we disagree? There's several reasons - it's been working fine for years (even before listeners started to drop, so it's not the cause of that), Habbox already lags lots, so with so much extra content it would be like lag city, it could take listeners who aren't interested in news, rare values etc away, it'll make song reviews/playlist less read, it may be hard to update the site, if Habbox.com crashed, viewers/listeners would have nowhere else to go apart from other fansites, there may not be enough room for all content, it could fail like last time, and it's just pointless, and I know that many members of previous Radio Management agree.

In fairness, the current site does lag sometimes - but the new site may not have this problem. No one I dont think would agree that in the current state of the site that it should be merged - but possibly after v6. Another way of listening to the radio is through the forum at the bottom, so even if the habbox site crashed there is still methods. Hecktix has already said that the system is very easy to update (for listeners, playlists).

[AgnesIO]

Gems you have virtually NO extra content. You don't have any extra images - and text is not going to make Habbox lag :S

I am glad to see you have decided that HabboxLive is fine as it is, that nothing needs changing, you are just as big and super as you always have been and that Habbox would not benefit in anyway from a merge.

What a bloody predictable result.

[,Jess,]

I think that the layout does need updating but in terms of how it looks it is a hell of a lot better than some of the layouts that HabboxLive had in the past. I have always been against the site merging with Hx.com just because of how badly it went the last time. When Habbox V6 comes then maybe it would be an option because by the sounds of things it would be easier to manage and as long as all went well it could do well for both HabboxLive and the rest of Habbox. This said, a lot of people like to use the HabboxLive site, some of the dedicated listeners solely use the site and like it being easy to find all of the HabboxLive info together.

The HabboxLive staff doing the playlist and reviews I always liked because it gave people more of an imput if they wanted. It is an added workload and not sure on how it is done now but it could be shared with the articles dept like hxl picking the songs and articles reviewing? I just think that them being hxl content makes a lot of sense because it is to do with music and if habboxlive staff enjoying writing them and doing them, I see no harm.

With the amount of listeners, I think that the popularity of Habbo radios in general has fallen. Of course there is always a way to improve but it isn't something that happens overnight and lately I have noticed that the listeners have been increasing consistantly. Last night at 2am there was around 60 listeners and I think that one thing HabboxLive has over other radios is that it is fairly popular at all times not just GMT but EST and AEST. HabboxLive has always tried to cater for different timezones and looking at the staff list there are loads of staff for all these times and having good listeners consistantly is better than 200 at primetime and then 20 after 10pm GMT.

The number of perm shows is fantastic, they are all very different and therefore give variety that people want. Weekly shows give DJs a chance to really plan shows and make sure that they are full of content and they are normal the most interesting shows to listen to because they are really thought through. In terms of variety on air, I think by having a quota it won't work in the right way. I've been tuning in lately and hearing a wide range of music. Obviously there are certain songs and artists that you can't seem to get away from but each DJ has heir own style and tries to incorporate something different. In the primetime hours you are less likely to hear variety and this could be improved but it is difficult for DJs when they get so many requests, if you ignore them then you annoy a listener and they want to know why. If they aren't getting the songs they want then they may go elsewhere. Getting the right balance is very important and I think this is what you were getting at with the quota thing. People can easily check the last played songs before they go on air but I don;t think that this is always done, hence the same songs being repeated and I think that this should be encouraged more because then it starts to tackle the problem of not enough variety.

The quality of DJs in general I think is good, it may not be perfect but people can improve. This is what the senior DJs are there for and the show feedback PMs. Given the right guidance I think that the majority of DJs will be amazing. When getting DJ applications some people might not sound the most polished but they have personality and sound natural. Some people sound really over-rehearsed and say the same thing in their apps and it is important to get DJs that will bring something new. I am sure that Gemma and James pick DJs they think are both talented and have the potential to be amazing. Lately there have been many new additions so a lot of settling in but over time I am sure that the quality will pick up because that all comes with time and experience.

Giving people a trial on a server is good, I oly did it a few times and that was because it does take up a lot more added time. You have to make sure you have a time when both you and the DJ are available and it does give that person added pressure. The good thing about the 2 week trial is that people get a chance to settle in and they often improve over those 2 weeks and you see something that you wouldn't have had within 10 minutes. Having the 10 minute trial system would be good but it isn't always the best option or the most practical.