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    I disagree when you say Gemma, dismissed your ideas fully. She is certainly taking a few into consideration speaking to her now. What makes a good manager is someone who has the values and stands by them at all times.

    The problem with the merge and this is what management see, is that it will only work with an easy to use user system, which doesn't deprive HxL from many of its current features. The last time we merged was a disaster in more ways than one. There was an un-compatible user system, glitches and bugs all over the place, it made the site a haven for lag. Therefore, management is looking into what really is best- do we really want a repeat of that? No, I don't think so. I am all for a merge if people can guarantee that such bug and glitches will not repeat themselves and whether it statistically will be worth it.
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    I think a merge would benefit habbox a lot more overall rather than remaining seperate entities. The key thing for habbox to be successful is working together and placing the benefits of both sites onto one another. I think if habboxlive.com redirected users to habbox.com That would maintain the ammount of listeners and if anything, improve it as majority of habbox users would begin listening to it. The technical aspect of it has already been said that witch V6 it would be possible, so I don't understand how anyone can have a valid argument against this movement? Afterall, habboxlive is just a part of habbox, not a seperate site.
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    I don't understand why they are so against the merge, it's not like the merge suggestions for events/comps where it will 100% change everything, the HxL merge will really, I believe, boost listeners and give them the proper Habbox experience.


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    i'm going to post some opinions on this, please don't get offended dear

    Quote Originally Posted by markypee4 View Post

    The Layout - I think there should be a new layout or either merge with Habbox.com because the old layout is getting a little old and a little 'childish' if you know what I mean. In all respect, it looks more of a website I'd go to order my little cousin's birthday present, not a radio site for teenage kids with the average age of about 14/15. A few years ago HxL was getting 200 listeners but now it is only hitting 100, this is because the old listeners have grown up, if this is the case HabboxLive need to grow up to suit the majority of listeners. This problem partly being Habbo obviously.
    I quite like the layout actually and yes we could probably use a new one, especially since we've had this one for so long. Although I don't think it's awful and I think we have had worse in the past.

    The term "DJ" - I think HabboxLive should abolish the term "DJ" and replace it with either a nickname or their normal name. My local radio station have a few of their DJs called Boogie, Dingo and Kristal. These are quite catchy names and I think if HabboxLive did this it would really catch on! Having a DJ called (for example) DJ Richie sounds a little childish (especially when the average listener is about 14/15 and if you want this to go up I really think the site and a few other things need to grow up with the times if you get what I'm saying) when if the DJ name was just Richie it would sound a lot better! The same goes with DJ Jammy, if this was changed to Jammy it would also, sound a lot better!
    I do quite like this idea and I think it would give us something fresh. Yes it is traditional to be called DJ and then whatever your DJ name is, and I personally call myself DJ LexiiLu on air and whatnot but it would probably still sound good.

    The DJ Process - I think we all need to admit that some of the DJs are a little un-experienced or need a little practise. I think during the application process as well as a 60 minute clip of your djing after that stage there should be an actual 10 minute DJing show using Sam Broadcaster. It is all well and good a DJ Applicant using Sound Recorder but using Sam Broadcaster is another. Going back to the age thing, it makes HabboxLive listener age go down therefore less listeners. With all due respect, I realise Habbo has taken a lot of listeners away from Habbox but the more we can get the better!
    This would be nearly impossible. As stated before, we get way too many trialists to test them all for 10 minutes on the trial radio. Many other fansites do this but they don't get nearly as many applications as us. Also, this would waste valuable time on people who aren't even going to work here We could pick out the best from the sound clips and test them, but definitely not all of the applicants. This is also what the two weeks is for. If they're really that bad, they're not going to pass their trial. I know it would probably improve the quality but some people take a little while to get used to things and get settled and they improve over time. If we had a trial radio when I came here, I would have failed immediately. We could lose some great potential DJ's. Yes, it would help get rid of the DJ's who don't even know how to use SAM, but being it that position, I didn't know how either. It took me a LONG time. However, I wasn't necessarily an awful DJ just because I didn't know how to use SAM? Personally I think this is extremely risky.

    Variety of Music & More Themed Shows - When I was discussing the HxL music to another staff member they noted that there was not a lot of variety on the radio. You need to try and suit everyone who listens to the radio therefore I think there should be a rota on what to play during the 1 hour you are on, if that be:

    2 80's songs
    2 90's songs
    3 up-to-date songs
    1 club/trance song
    1 rock/metal song
    and the rest requests + shout outs

    Now above is just an example, and could be changed to suit the department managers.
    Personally I think this is an awful idea. Many DJ's actually don't play all mainstream and I think that giving them requirements totally takes out the fun of getting to choose their songs. Personally, I enjoy playing songs by artists like Lady Gaga, Katy Perry and Ke$ha that aren't mainstream but they're still by mainstream artists, so where would those be ranked? I'm also not into trance music, I find it extremely boring and repetitive so I don't have any of it. If I don't like a specific genre of music, I'm most likely not going to play it? Most of the DJ's have very different music tastes You can't exactly force us to all be the same. And I know you said this would just be a guideline, etc. but I don't think that it's necessary.

    In regards to the perm shows I think that there needs to be a smaller amount of them and then do them twice a week or something.

    This is what I suggest:
    Habbo Top 20 - With DJ Skynus : Monday 6-8pm - This could carry on as normal.
    alright

    Dubstep Fix - With DJ Static : Wednesday 3-4am Maybe twice or three times a week a week but instead of calling Dubstep Fix, call it the Variety Show and each week the Music genre would change. The schedule for this show could be posted somewhere on the forum or on the HxL website.
    This show was made to appeal to people who like Dubstep. It wasn't created to be a variety show. This is why we have more than one perm show with different genres. It's only once a week, and it's always the same type of music. People that enjoy that particular type of music will be likely to tune into that show. In my opinion, changing it would be just as bad as playing the amount of variety we already do. The lovers of a certain genre of music wouldn't hear that genre again for another month or two, so what would be the point? There would not be anything special about it any longer - as someone said before, it would just be this DJ gets this slot at this time every week.

    Movie Madness - With DJ Kell : Wednesday 5-6pm - This could be done once a week but maybe call it a different name and instead of doing just movies, the show could be put on twice a week and one day do movies, the next famous TV adverts/theme tunes or something to do with TV/film.

    Friday Nights With Doctor Porky : Friday 7-8pm - I reckon this could catch on quite well! There is something like this on my local radio station, it starts at 10 on all week nights and the theme of the show is Sex, Relationships and Life. Obviously the topics could be changed because after all most of us are teenagers. The show could be called "All About Life" and just deal with peoples problems in life, like a person they can talk to without the embarrassment of doing it face to face.
    all good

    Slumber Party - With DJs Random & Piper : Saturday 1-3am - I think this is good but have it at all times, not just GMT. EST/CST & AEST DJs could do the same but at a time to suit them and their time zone.
    not likely to happen for EST unless an Australian did it, since it'd be 5/6 AM for UK i do like the idea though

    Eurovision Weekly - With DJs Gemma & Sam : Saturday 2-3pm - This show should be taken. This should could be one of the genre/show theme that could tie in with my idea at "Dubstep Fix".
    read above about dubstep

    Scandal Sundays - With DJ LexiiLu : Sunday 9-10pm - This can stay but maybe get people on air telling their opinion or have a kind of open chat with it on msn, skype or I've seen a few of these programmes kicking around where you can have a proper discussion but it is free to join and people can voice their speech without any hassle! Coders are the best person to discuss this with.
    I'm not able to do 'Double DJing' aka bringing listeners on air because I don't have a soundcard and Virtual Audio Cable doesn't work on this computer we'd have to figure out an alternative but it is a good idea

    Nonstop Rock Block - With DJ Kyora : Sunday 6-8pm - The same as Dubstep Fix and Eurovision Weekly, turn it into a show that is aired once or twice a week with a different theme to it each week or have a schedule.
    once again, completely disagree with this, read for Dubstep Fix
    These are just a few ideas I think could change HabboxLive and would bring a lot of the old listeners back and hopefully 100 listeners wouldn't be so hard to get. This is not at all a dig or disrespectful to anyone at the department past or present, it is simple an idea. I hope this helped and maybe a few of my ideas may be put into practise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grig View Post
    I disagree when you say Gemma, dismissed your ideas fully. She is certainly taking a few into consideration speaking to her now. What makes a good manager is someone who has the values and stands by them at all times.

    The problem with the merge and this is what management see, is that it will only work with an easy to use user system, which doesn't deprive HxL from many of its current features. The last time we merged was a disaster in more ways than one. There was an un-compatible user system, glitches and bugs all over the place, it made the site a haven for lag. Therefore, management is looking into what really is best- do we really want a repeat of that? No, I don't think so. I am all for a merge if people can guarantee that such bug and glitches will not repeat themselves and whether it statistically will be worth it.
    The thing is, no matter what she says behind the scenes, her post in this thread suggested she was not going to consider any of it. And as Sam said, I don't listen regularly and I am not staff. So I don't know what is talked about behind the scenes


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    Quote Originally Posted by Milestone View Post
    The thing is, no matter what she says behind the scenes, her post in this thread suggested she was not going to consider any of it. And as Sam said, I don't listen regularly and I am not staff. So I don't know what is talked about behind the scenes
    Gemma never once said she was not going to consider any of the points said in this feedback thread? if anything she has said that all points will be taken into consideration. If the merge of hx and hxl site happens then it happens we can't exactly change that really, i think she only disagreed with like a few of the comments so its hardly fair to say she didnt consider any of it .








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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesOYES View Post
    Gemma never once said she was not going to consider any of the points said in this feedback thread? if anything she has said that all points will be taken into consideration. If the merge of hx and hxl site happens then it happens we can't exactly change that really, i think she only disagreed with like a few of the comments so its hardly fair to say she didnt consider any of it .
    her post in this thread suggested she was not going to consider any of it
    Spot the key word. From reading her post, she didn't agree with any thing she quoted?

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    Anyway, it isn't really fair to have an argument about her on here, so let's stop.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Milestone View Post
    Spot the key word. From reading her post, she didn't agree with any thing she quoted?

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    Anyway, it isn't really fair to have an argument about her on here, so let's stop.
    My intentions to my previous post was never to argue with you . Just didnt think it was fair to say that Gemma didnt take the points into consideration she may of disagreed with a few things (which is totally her choice as its her opinion) but i know for a fact she took all the points into consideration whether she disagreed or not.








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    Quote Originally Posted by ,Lexiilu View Post
    This would be nearly impossible. As stated before, we get way too many trialists to test them all for 10 minutes on the trial radio. Many other fansites do this but they don't get nearly as many applications as us. Also, this would waste valuable time on people who aren't even going to work here We could pick out the best from the sound clips and test them, but definitely not all of the applicants. This is also what the two weeks is for. If they're really that bad, they're not going to pass their trial. I know it would probably improve the quality but some people take a little while to get used to things and get settled and they improve over time. If we had a trial radio when I came here, I would have failed immediately. We could lose some great potential DJ's. Yes, it would help get rid of the DJ's who don't even know how to use SAM, but being it that position, I didn't know how either. It took me a LONG time. However, I wasn't necessarily an awful DJ just because I didn't know how to use SAM? Personally I think this is extremely risky.
    It's better than what we do now. I've radio managed several sites and it's the best way by far. I've done it where I just hire (for new sites) from a clip, I've done 2 week trials like HxL do currently, and I've done trial radio and the trial radio gives the best results every time.

    Honestly - if you can't use SAM, you shouldn't be a DJ here. I don't mean to offend you, because you're a brilliant DJ, but we're the biggest and best fansite - or at least that's what we aim for, and therefore shouldn't be hiring complete noobs. If you can't use SAM, no matter how good your voice is, the simple fact is, go away - learn, then come back. We're not saying "no, we don't want you" and you could even say to them "come back when you can use SAM because I love your voice" or whatever.
    It's not time consuming at all either. Especially as RMs generally don't DJ as much, I think they can allocate 1-2 evenings a week each (maybe weekends in the afternoons?) (James and Gem that is) to do it. Take the best 10 applicants, stick them on a trial radio for 5-10 minutes and choose the best 6-7 few for 2 week trial to see how they cope in front of 100 listeners. Then pass the best 4-5.
    Not only does it make sure high quality, it also makes people WANT the job more. If you're giving it out willy nilly to anyone who has a broken voice then people don't value the job. If you make it hard to get in - like it used to be - then yes, everyone will want to work at habbox because of its high quality. And what is 10 minutes x 10 anyway? 100 minutes? Split between 2 people. 50 minutes each. Less than an hour. Are you telling me James & Gemma can't give under an hour to do that in one week? :S

    Sorry for the long, drawn out reply but I feel very strong that this, if nothing else, should happen. Not only will it ensure high quality and more people aiming for the DJ spot because they fall at one or other of the hurdles, but it isn't hard, time consuming or anything, it just makes me reassured that Habbox is choosing the best possible DJs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It's better than what we do now. I've radio managed several sites and it's the best way by far. I've done it where I just hire (for new sites) from a clip, I've done 2 week trials like HxL do currently, and I've done trial radio and the trial radio gives the best results every time.

    Honestly - if you can't use SAM, you shouldn't be a DJ here. I don't mean to offend you, because you're a brilliant DJ, but we're the biggest and best fansite - or at least that's what we aim for, and therefore shouldn't be hiring complete noobs. If you can't use SAM, no matter how good your voice is, the simple fact is, go away - learn, then come back. We're not saying "no, we don't want you" and you could even say to them "come back when you can use SAM because I love your voice" or whatever.
    It's not time consuming at all either. Especially as RMs generally don't DJ as much, I think they can allocate 1-2 evenings a week each (maybe weekends in the afternoons?) (James and Gem that is) to do it. Take the best 10 applicants, stick them on a trial radio for 5-10 minutes and choose the best 6-7 few for 2 week trial to see how they cope in front of 100 listeners. Then pass the best 4-5.
    Not only does it make sure high quality, it also makes people WANT the job more. If you're giving it out willy nilly to anyone who has a broken voice then people don't value the job. If you make it hard to get in - like it used to be - then yes, everyone will want to work at habbox because of its high quality. And what is 10 minutes x 10 anyway? 100 minutes? Split between 2 people. 50 minutes each. Less than an hour. Are you telling me James & Gemma can't give under an hour to do that in one week? :S

    Sorry for the long, drawn out reply but I feel very strong that this, if nothing else, should happen. Not only will it ensure high quality and more people aiming for the DJ spot because they fall at one or other of the hurdles, but it isn't hard, time consuming or anything, it just makes me reassured that Habbox is choosing the best possible DJs.
    I agree with some points you've made but surely the 2 week trial is used as a learning process too? .








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