Woman hangs dog after burning it because it chewed her Bible...

[Nick]

Wow i feel sorry for that dog

[Jsoh]

What the actual hell this is utterly disgusting. The woman obviously holds her bible very close to her heart and appreciates it, but surely that would mean that she would be following the ways of it and not KILLING animals. This story actually makes me sad, as the woman is clearly mentally deranged and the dog shouldn't be treated like that. (

[Mikey]

A bit over the top to be honest. The woman must have no common sense at all because obviously it's going to chew on things and unfortunately for her it was her bible. She could of easy bought a new bible and put it out of reach of the dog next time. Cruel, cruel woman.

[Slowpoke]

She faces 180 days to five years in prison if convicted

Now that is good. It's very rare you see people get a prison sentence for animal cruelty. This is how it should always be

[ifuseekamy]

All animals are born with instincts, what is good and bad is human logic and doesn't apply to the natural world. That aside, the dog was chewing on a book not a baby's head, the woman is just typically bat****.

[Shockwave.2CC]

Why the *Removed* would anyone do this a living animal

Dogs are like the best

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[.Shaun,,]

At least she getting sentenced, not just a slap on the wrist.

[GommeInc]

That's because the dogs and babies you've known have been brought up in lovings environment where they would not be aggressive. You don't have to look back far in history to see that dogs and humans are naturally aggressive creatures designed to kill in order to survive, we have not lost this instinct and we're all born with it. Babies naturally bite (part of the aggression i'm talking about), obviously it doesn't cause "serious harm" or "GBH" at this stage because frankly they're pathetic and not strong enough to harm anyone. They're told off for doing this and when they grow older don't bite or hurt people as they were taught as babies it's wrong. The same applies to dogs and any other animals.

Everything is naturally aggressive in order to survive. Things cannot be born good or bad. Judging by the environment they are brought up in, they will either continue to be aggressive, and therefore "bad" or non-aggressive and therefore "good". This is not determined at birth however.

Just picking up a small point which is I believe why Muct is getting confused with the arguments. One of your original posts you claimed animals are "born good".

Lions and Snakes are "born good" but it doesn't mean that anyone should own one. It's in the nature of certain animals (including some breeds of dogs) to kill things and be very aggressive, in some cases they're virtually impossible to tame.

You therefore believe non-domestic or "wild" animals should not be owned (or indeed, unownable/tabeable), but are "born good", as with most animals - non-aggressive, they do not have immediate desires to attack. Aggression tends to be linked with violent or expected violent behaviour, which is a negative, therefore bad and therefore suggests that they are born bad. Linking back to domesticated animals such as dogs - dogs tend to be born into the word neutral or more precise, "good-neutral" where they play bite and use their mouths to learn from their environment - children do it all the time afterall, even though they are not bad or aggressive. It's part of the growing up process to use teeth and so forth, so in this debate how animals are born is somewhat irrelevant as all animals play bite in the growing up stages - herbivores too (which lack any desire for meat).

However, in saying that, I do completely agree with you that that how they turn out in adult life is down to how they are treated and brought up in the all important baby, child and "juvenile" years where they learn not to bite or be aggressive (or as aggressive, as they like all animals can defend themselves). Pit Bulls have the capability or being "good" in adult life as with all domesticated animals - domesticated suggesting they're tame or tameable.

In short, we've managed to go completely away from the pit bull discussion and turn it into the psychology of man and beast in a domesticated and wild environment

[party]

This is horrible. If I'm honest that woman should get fined because that dog did nothing to deserve that.

[GommeInc]

This is horrible. If I'm honest that woman should get fined because that dog did nothing to deserve that.

She deserves more than a fine, poor thing didn't do anything wrong and her actions are a bit worrying, considering how she killed the animal. I'd be worried about being near her incase I used her Bible as bog roll