Employed 'given housing priority'

[Jordy]

Let's say someone is 18. He comes from a broken home, his father left years ago and his mother is ill. Eventually his mother gets taken into hospital and he's forced to grow up in an orphanage. Because of the disruption in his life he wasn't the best student; understandable. Eventually he turns 18 but cannot get a job because of circumstances that he couldn't change. But the government then says "**** you you useless pile of ****" and gives a house he was seeking to someone who works a full time job and can't be bothered paying rent.

Yeah, this sounds like a fantastic idea. This was just a message to little kiddies out there who agree with this. Humans aren't equal, that is true. But giving free things to the ones already better off is ******ed.

(The person in this story is made up, but I know someone who went through something similar apart from the ending)

Just because he had a poor upbringing and no qualifications doesn't mean he can't get a job. The government also offer lots of help at that age for getting you into a job or an apprenticeship.

[Niall!]

Just because he had a poor upbringing and no qualifications doesn't mean he can't get a job. The government also offer lots of help at that age for getting you into a job or an apprenticeship.

Yeah, so what is he supposed to do while waiting to get into a job? And are you telling me if all that stuff happened to you you would keep studying?

[Catzsy]

Just because he had a poor upbringing and no qualifications doesn't mean he can't get a job. The government also offer lots of help at that age for getting you into a job or an apprenticeship.

It did Jordy, It did.

I am always suspicious of threads that don't contain the source of the original sources. At the moment this is just the view of the Housing Chief. It still has to go to the full council in April.
As somebody has already said how many unemployed people are there in Westminster, anyway?
If there are the rents are so high that they probably couldn't afford them given the council housing benefits limits which on the whole are a good idea in respect on long term unemployed but will be a problem on low paid employed people who are on say working tax credit. Personally I feel this is just 'a carrot' and a bit of political hype.

[Jordy]

Yeah, so what is he supposed to do while waiting to get into a job? And are you telling me if all that stuff happened to you you would keep studying?

Apprenticeships are a different form of 'studying', it's not like school or college. It's in an actual work environment and more often than not, hands on work. They usually pay you as well.

Well at 18 if he doesn't wish to get a job or study then so be it, why does he deserve a house over someone who's worked for it. Just because of his circumstances it doesn't mean he should just give up and not contribute to society.

[Niall!]

Apprenticeships are a different form of 'studying', it's not like school or college. It's in an actual work environment and more often than not, hands on work. They usually pay you as well.

Well at 18 if he doesn't wish to get a job or study then so be it, why does he deserve a house over someone who's worked for it. Just because of his circumstances it doesn't mean he should just give up and not contribute to society.

I just said he wasn't able to get a job because his ****** up personal life made studying impossible. And studying after 18 isn't a job. So he still shouldn't get a house?

[Jordy]

It did Jordy, It did.

I'm under the impression the government is strongly behind Apprenticeships and seem to be doing their best to boost them. I'm not entirely sure on the coalitions position on these things but they don't seem to be doing anything different to Labour rly.

I just said he wasn't able to get a job because his ****** up personal life made studying impossible. And studying after 18 isn't a job. So he still shouldn't get a house?

It's always possible to get a job if you're determined enough, plus there's a lot of government help out there at the moment. I sense though this is going to go round in circles but anyway

[-:Undertaker:-]

Let's say someone is 18. He comes from a broken home, his father left years ago and his mother is ill. Eventually his mother gets taken into hospital and he's forced to grow up in an orphanage. Because of the disruption in his life he wasn't the best student; understandable. Eventually he turns 18 but cannot get a job because of circumstances that he couldn't change. But the government then says "**** you you useless pile of ****" and gives a house he was seeking to someone who works a full time job and can't be bothered paying rent.

Yeah, this sounds like a fantastic idea. This was just a message to little kiddies out there who agree with this. Humans aren't equal, that is true. But giving free things to the ones already better off is ******ed.

(The person in this story is made up, but I know someone who went through something similar apart from the ending)

Broken home, family illness and wealth do not affect your ability to go out and get a job, if you have determination you will mostly succeed - if you do not, then you will most likely fail and you deserve it. It is true though that wealth now affects educational ability, as since the abolition of the Grammar schools system the only way to buy into a good education is to go either private or have wealthy parents who will buy into a good catchment area - this is something the left refuses to admit to this day.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...le-Labour.html



Figures are given here in the link, look at the statistics for the pre-war generation (pre-welfare state) compared to todays statistics - a round of applause for the Labour Party for firstly creating a costly welfare state and increasing the 'underclass' during their 13 years in office along with a pat on the back for the Conservative Party which has dithered and done nothing to sort these issues out.

[Conservative,]

Yeah, so what is he supposed to do while waiting to get into a job? And are you telling me if all that stuff happened to you you would keep studying?

People in an orphanage when they're 17/18 get moved to a halfway house (they're more independent etc) and then are usually given a small flat by the government. So your example was poor, plus as above has said, he could still get a job or apprenticeship without the best qualifications...

[Ajthedragon]

Finally, it's worth the work.