V6

[Marbian]

I think some more non-habbo forum skins would be dovely.

[Jin]

I hope this isn't the biggest let down since the social network

I heard the social network was quite good. Wasn't it nominated for a few awards also?

Okay those of you who thought it was coming at the end of last January you're wrong, have completely misunderstood or were mislead by a 14 year old boy.

The initial thought about changing from V5 which we have been stuck on for years to V6 was conceived in January 2010. That was when the first tweet came about.

However the actual specification on V6 wasn't written till Autumn 2010 as I was away for the entire summer period and frankly I was still thinking of new features to the site. Prior to that no developments were made because you can't code unless you know what you are making. The whole structure of the site and systems have completely changed so you couldn't even use initiative to make changes.

The plan was to release it in January 2011 but they are still making last minute changes and also adding things that Sierk suggested in early January 2011. We also still have bug testing to go through so we won't release it until we are satisfied that there aren't any major bugs. On top of that people also do have examinations and they take first priority over Habbox any day.

In terms of release it will happen overnight, there will be no fanfare. David will release the basic site on a night without any warning or announcement and then release other features in subsequent releases when we are both certain the current release is bug free. What I will say is that the first few releases are functional releases so we may have a lot of maintenance breaks and then the last remaining releases will be style releases which won't affect users.

I hope this somewhat corrects peoples misconceptions which is basically fuelling a fire that should have never begun in the first place.

[AgnesIO]

I heard the social network was quite good. Wasn't it nominated for a few awards also?

Okay those of you who thought it was coming at the end of last January you're wrong, have completely misunderstood or were mislead by a 14 year old boy.

The initial thought about changing from V5 which we have been stuck on for years to V6 was conceived in January 2010. That was when the first tweet came about.

However the actual specification on V6 wasn't written till Autumn 2010 as I was away for the entire summer period and frankly I was still thinking of new features to the site. Prior to that no developments were made because you can't code unless you know what you are making. The whole structure of the site and systems have completely changed so you couldn't even use initiative to make changes.

The plan was to release it in January 2011 but they are still making last minute changes and also adding things that Sierk suggested in early January 2011. We also still have bug testing to go through so we won't release it until we are satisfied that there aren't any major bugs. On top of that people also do have examinations and they take first priority over Habbox any day.

In terms of release it will happen overnight, there will be no fanfare. David will release the basic site on a night without any warning or announcement and then release other features in subsequent releases when we are both certain the current release is bug free. What I will say is that the first few releases are functional releases so we may have a lot of maintenance breaks and then the last remaining releases will be style releases which won't affect users.

I hope this somewhat corrects peoples misconceptions which is basically fuelling a fire that should have never begun in the first place.

As normal, you are being unfair on Blob.

Everyone blames him, but he was NOT the only one to mention this date, he was NOT corrected at the time. A mistake was made, someone should own up to it rather than using Blobs arse to save everyone.

In general good post, +Rep

[Hecktix]

As normal, you are being unfair on Blob.

Everyone blames him, but he was NOT the only one to mention this date, he was NOT corrected at the time. A mistake was made, someone should own up to it rather than using Blobs arse to save everyone.

In general good post, +Rep

To be fair, Blob was the person who kept banging on about release dates. When ideas are formed it never takes a set path, so in January 2010 Jin decided "this year we will progress towards a new version of the site" - I don't know the full truth behind what happened behind the scenes as I wasnt General Management at the time however I'm pretty sure Jin then contemplated drawing up the spec for v6 at several points in the year, if the staff members Jin confides these ideas to takes them the wrong way and leaks them, word catches on and 'cause a site coder said it people believe it.

Nobody has lied.

[AgnesIO]

To be fair, Blob was the person who kept banging on about release dates. When ideas are formed it never takes a set path, so in January 2010 Jin decided "this year we will progress towards a new version of the site" - I don't know the full truth behind what happened behind the scenes as I wasnt General Management at the time however I'm pretty sure Jin then contemplated drawing up the spec for v6 at several points in the year, if the staff members Jin confides these ideas to takes them the wrong way and leaks them, word catches on and 'cause a site coder said it people believe it.

Nobody has lied.

So tell me. When Ryan was throwing release dates around, who said this wasn't the case? Because I am fairly sure I didn't see ANYONE suggest otherwise.

[Hecktix]

So tell me. When Ryan was throwing release dates around, who said this wasn't the case? Because I am fairly sure I didn't see ANYONE suggest otherwise.

As I said, it was all ideas nothing was confirmed on v6 apart from the fact it was coming - and on this basis nobody was in the position to say Ryan was wrong afterall who knows what Jin could have said to him in private?

[AgnesIO]

As I said, it was all ideas nothing was confirmed on v6 apart from the fact it was coming - and on this basis nobody was in the position to say Ryan was wrong afterall who knows what Jin could have said to him in private?

So not one single member of upper management questioned this? Blob was used as a scapegoat whether we like it or not. A mistake was made, wouldn't it be a far, far better decision for someone to accept it.

I look forward to seeing the final release, and I see no point in continuing this argument.

[Inseriousity.]

So not one single member of upper management questioned this? Blob was used as a scapegoat whether we like it or not. A mistake was made, wouldn't it be a far, far better decision for someone to accept it.

I look forward to seeing the final release, and I see no point in continuing this argument.

That's probably because no member of upper management had any cause to question it. Communication at Habbox normally occurs between the members of staff with which it directly involves rather than the staff (and in some cases, members) it also indirectly involves. In other words, communication sucks.

As for v6, I can understand with all the different messages from different people (refer to paragraph 1 for reason why) why people are a bit sceptical of the whole thing. I've not seen v6 yet but nothing can be as bad as... Joomla -shudder-

[sophiethenerd]

I just want to log on one day. Go on habbox and go OMG ITS V6. YEEEEEEEY . There is no point moaning about it just let the coders do there busy little codingy html confusing things.

[Jin]

Because not a single member of management was aware that it was being thrown about...

I was surprised when the first instance of V6 was mentioned to me by a member of the the public. I had spoke to blob in march 2010 stating that I wanted him to take the lead in coding with 2 other coders once the spec was made, I believe this lead to believe he was in charge of everything and wanted to basically do the whole thing himself.

This is where leaks started to occur, at this point I went on tour and then came back, formed a spec and released it to the v6 developers and basically blob wanted to go off spec. At that point I changed who would lead the task to David as he seemed to have his head screwed on right about how the site should work. Blob then carried on developing his own version whilst ignoring the tasks allocated to him on the collaborative version.

Soon enough nothing was getting done by blob I was spoken to about this by general management, I gave blob 1 more week and pressed him to get things done at the end of that week pyroka made the mistake of getting involved and then basically blob continued to be dead weight which had to be cut off (and on hindsight I should have taken action when general management reported it the week before).

The fact is between Jan 2010 and Aug 2010 nobody but blob and myself where aware of the actual developments behind V6. So no blob wasn't used as a scapegoat, he took it upon himself to go rogue, not work as part of a team and basically speak to every tom and harry about early developments behind our backs which is why the critics (who I believe are the toms and harrys) are getting so impatient as they were promised something 6 months earlier then they should have been.

At the end of the day whatever you have heard you have heard, but you haven't heard it officially from Habbox. If that were the case we would have put it on the Habbox Announcements you know? How our official announcements have worked for the last 6 years.