Why wouldn't we believe someone in a far more important role than half of the general managers?I am sorry you were mislead by a member of staff who had no authority in saying the things he said to you.
I am sorry you were gullible to believe these things considering this person wasn't management or anything of those sorts.
I am sorry that you like to think you are actually intelligent enough to give any form of feedback when all you seem capable of playing is the blame game which undoubtedly you lose every time because you never know what is actually occurring as you take everything at face value.
That's all I have to apologies for because we are on track in terms of V6. If you think otherwise then that's your own problem
How many of the general managers can actually code properly? If they can code better than our coders, tell them their new job descriptions.
Last edited by Catzsy; 31-01-2011 at 01:38 PM. Reason: Post duplicated twice. Lag
Simple:
Habbox don't have a leg to stand on in terms of firing staff for not meeting deadlines, after all, they are volunteers.
Of course we can fire staff for not meeting deadlines, volunteer or not you agree to our terms as staff and if you don't stick by the rules you are removed from the teams.
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Previous Habbox Roles: Shows Manager, Help Desk Manager, Forum Moderator, Forum Super Moderator, Assistant Forum Manager, Forum Manager, Assistant General Manager (Staff), General Manager.
Retired from Habbox May 2011
I totally disagree. If Habbox or any other fansite hadn't ensured that these deadlines had been met, they'd have closed years ago. Habbox has a leg to stand on in terms of firing staff for not meeting deadlines simply because surely whenever somebody joins Habbox they agree to work to deadlines which they themselves or a management member sets. If there was no deadlines for V6 for Habbox I'd imagine we would be waiting for a much longer time.
I don't like to blow my own trumpet, but I did actually blow my own trumpet..
I'm not saying they don't have a right to, but when they're playing the blame game and such, it's going a bit far.
Right, so Blob was reading this thread and wanted me to post for him. Please note, these are not my views and I don't represent these views, I'm simply relaying what he wanted to say. All these views were written by Ryan.
Originally Posted by Blob
For one, I can't remember releasing any dates of when v6 was to be released. Sure I may have estimated the month it would be released, but never a final date as such.
I'll put this in here now - I leaked nothing regarding v6. I showed people (shortly after I was fired) the layout I had designed for v6. Lets face it now, why would you use a layout from an old developer after you have fired him? Would he really let you? No. Therefore, I had every single right to show people what I had created and why I am supposed to be IP banned and I'm on the auto ban list and permed confuses me.
I had a layout, intergrated with a widget system which I found really nice. At no point did I "continue to develop this and disregard anything else of my workload", because it is still in the same condition as to when I introduced the idea and system to Habbox Management (minus a few graphical changes, for v6 ya kno).
I'll also say this - working at ClubHabbo was the best fansite to work at if I'm honest with you. Sure, being management at Habbox would have been brilliant as I would have a direct connection to the owner, like I did at ClubHabbo. Saying I wanted to be management at the time of working for Habbox like I was at ClubHabbo is quite a stupid statement if I say so myself, as I had no idea of what being management at ClubHabbo was to be like, considering I started working for them after I got fired from Habbox.
Also, I get along with David (and Robbie) just fine. Although I don't talk to Robbie as much, David and I continue to talk about coding and things (in before Jin thinks he is talking to me about secret v6 stuff).
Yes, I wanted to work myself. Why? Quickness. Pressure was coming for v6 and I work the best by myself with my coding style, and mixing it with David would have been slow and difficult with communication.
Sure, I missed a few deadlines (although I can't remember missing a rare values deadline, and I sure didn't create anything for v6, nor was I asked to), but what did I actually do for Habbox? A reason why I was fired (although I'm sure Jin and General Management would try to shoot this down) was voicing an opinion. I'm sure many of you have seen my rant about how it is working as a site coder, but to be fair, without me, you would still be stuck with a rubbish rare values system amongst other things.
In reply to the rare values system comment, the original specification was to get it done for the two managers. It wasn't until I was redoing the panels when the actual staff management aspect came into things.
In terms of the full access - what? How can you expect us to code without full access? You didn't know who I was? I worked for you for about 10 months? Sure, cPanel might be going way over the top but not allowing coders to have full access to public_html is a bit over the top.
Thanks for nailing the blame on me though, Jin. I won't be replying to anymore, so continue to bash a permed member if you wish to do so (it looks quite petty actually, nailing the blame on someone who can't defend themselves). All problems have a cause Jin, and oh wait - it seems the problem was you.
Last edited by Grig; 31-01-2011 at 04:30 PM.
Former: HabboxLive Manager, Asst. HabboxLive Manager, International HabboxLive Manager, Asst. HabboxLive Manager (Int.), Asst. News Manager, Debates Leader (numerous times) and 9999 other roles, including resident boozehound
Agreed!
I love it how all this V6 nonsense is being taken so far out of context and everything is being taken so seriously. I don't care who's blaming who and I couldn't care less about whether Site Coders get along or not. At the end of the day, it's a fansite for a flipping online game! Yes Habbox is a fun hobby for pretty much all of us, but when it comes down to jumping down each others throat and throwing blames around to everyone, that's why it gets personal and it's simply not needed on a site like this.
Last edited by Mathew; 31-01-2011 at 06:07 PM.
HERE HERE. I would rep but I can't sorry. Lets all be nice. TBH V6 is just a website layout. Nothing to get excited or irritated about.Agreed!
I love it how all this V6 nonsense is being taken so far out of context and everything is being taken so seriously. I don't care who's blaming who and I couldn't care less about whether Site Coders get along or not. At the end of the day, it's a fansite for a flipping online game! Yes Habbox is a fun hobby for pretty much all of us, but when it comes down to jumping down each others throat and throwing blames around to everyone, that's why it gets personal and it's simply not needed on a site like this.
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Woo, cant wait :]
Thank you for a most condescending apology, I wouldn't have it any other way from such a senior figure on a Habbo fansite.I am sorry you were mislead by a member of staff who had no authority in saying the things he said to you.
I am sorry you were gullible to believe these things considering this person wasn't management or anything of those sorts.
I am sorry that you like to think you are actually intelligent enough to give any form of feedback when all you seem capable of playing is the blame game which undoubtedly you lose every time because you never know what is actually occurring as you take everything at face value.
That's all I have to apologies for because we are on track in terms of V6. If you think otherwise then that's your own problem
One story that always made me giggle, was when Blob & Robbie told me that Alkaz didn't know how to code an iFrame. AGM (Content) my arse lol.
First post that I've felt actually contributed to the discussion in a positive manner. Shame you banned the member so he couldn't have his say till now. I expect the Habbox Feedback forum to no longer be visible to guests as of next month, or in Habbox time, next year. Go team.
Mathew, you're a Habbox Manager, you lose the right to make a decent point as soon as you taken the role. It's just the way it goes around here lol.Agreed!
I love it how all this V6 nonsense is being taken so far out of context and everything is being taken so seriously. I don't care who's blaming who and I couldn't care less about whether Site Coders get along or not. At the end of the day, it's a fansite for a flipping online game! Yes Habbox is a fun hobby for pretty much all of us, but when it comes down to jumping down each others throat and throwing blames around to everyone, that's why it gets personal and it's simply not needed on a site like this.
This forum is gonna be hella boring once V6 is actually out.
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