Reputation

[Chippiewill]

After hearing that Jin wanted to help newer users with reputation or something, it got me thinking about how it would be possible to make a fairer more balanced system that wouldn't just reward making loads of posts over a long time.

Instead of the displayed reputation (ie the green blocks) being determined by your number of reputation points, it could instead be determined by either:

a) Rep Points / Days since joining the forum (Rewards not being inactive)
b) Rep Points / Number of posts (Would reward those who post in spam a lot, unless there's a count including spam hidden somewhere)
c) A combination of the two.

This would provide a more accurate representation of the 'reputation' of the user rather than their ability to make lots and lots of posts and occasionally make a good one, and would also mean that a member who joined this forum yesterday and makes quality posts could have more reputation than someone who joined a few years ago and makes pretty horrendous posts (Such as myself ).

I'm not sure if this is abusable or not, or if it's even possible to do at all but it's worth asking and for a forum of this age I think it's a good idea.

Thoughts?

[AgnesIO]

I can see the idea, but honestly I think it should be left alone.

There ks nothing wrong with the current system - I personally think reputation is fine how it is!

[benjamin]

why fix something that isn't broken? i remember for so so so long, years ago everyone was all in a state over it. now it's running smoothly you may as well leave it.

[nvrspk4]

I understand where you're going with this, but first of all it might be overcomplicated to implement. Second of all, I have to disagree with the post thing as the number of posts people make varies, and I don't think it's a good metric to judge the reputation of a user by. Third, I disagree with the number of days as someone who makes only very valid posts but does it infrequently will probably have less reputation than someone who posts all the time, including in threads where rep is usually given out quite a bit.

In short, I like the direction you're going with the ideas and the intention behind the fixes, I just don't think that these fixes would be the best way to solve the problem (and I'm not fully aware of how major the problem is right now).

[AgnesIO]

I understand where you're going with this, but first of all it might be overcomplicated to implement. Second of all, I have to disagree with the post thing as the number of posts people make varies, and I don't think it's a good metric to judge the reputation of a user by. Third, I disagree with the number of days as someone who makes only very valid posts but does it infrequently will probably have less reputation than someone who posts all the time, including in threads where rep is usually given out quite a bit.

In short, I like the direction you're going with the ideas and the intention behind the fixes, I just don't think that these fixes would be the best way to solve the problem (and I'm not fully aware of how major the problem is right now).

I do not believe there is a problem. Just seemed to be due to admins having 50 rep for a short while.

I don't think new users are at any disadvantage - infact compared to when I joined they get rep points etc very easily!

[Inseriousity.]

It's not like rep is something you ask for, it's something you have to just go along with and earn as you go along. Make constructive/funny/good posts and someone might just give you a +rep for it. So I do wonder how many people actively search for more rep or it's just something that doesn't really interest them and accumulates over time, thereby rendering any changes to it pointless.

[Chippiewill]

I understand where you're going with this, but first of all it might be overcomplicated to implement.

If vBulletin is coded anywhere like phpbb3 is you could do it by changing one line of code. But I have no knowledge of how vB works.

Second of all, I have to disagree with the post thing as the number of posts people make varies, and I don't think it's a good metric to judge the reputation of a user by.

Could you elaborate, I don't quite get what you mean. Isn't the whole point that the number of posts people make vary?

Third, I disagree with the number of days as someone who makes only very valid posts but does it infrequently will probably have less reputation than someone who posts all the time, including in threads where rep is usually given out quite a bit.

I was a bit unsure on it but it would promote being active which isn't exactly a bad thing.

In short, I like the direction you're going with the ideas and the intention behind the fixes, I just don't think that these fixes would be the best way to solve the problem (and I'm not fully aware of how major the problem is right now).

It's not a major thing but Jin brought it up and at this point I don't really view it as possible to catch up to the likes of Neversoft in terms of reputation points so making it apply to the amount you earn per day or by the amount you got per post seemed like a way to negate the bonus of having been a member for longer. I feel it would probably better reflect user's opinions of the person rather than an accumulated total over time.

[AgnesIO]

It's not like rep is something you ask for, it's something you have to just go along with and earn as you go along. Make constructive/funny/good posts and someone might just give you a +rep for it. So I do wonder how many people actively search for more rep or it's just something that doesn't really interest them and accumulates over time, thereby rendering any changes to it pointless.

I do like gaining rep points - infact I was looking forward to being on par with agms etc - which I would have been in the next few weeks if they didn't change it :L

On the other hand, I am not that bothered for it - it really isn't that big a deal.

[benjamin]

If vBulletin is coded anywhere like phpbb3 is you could do it by changing one line of code. But I have no knowledge of how vB works.


Could you elaborate, I don't quite get what you mean. Isn't the whole point that the number of posts people make vary?


I was a bit unsure on it but it would promote being active which isn't exactly a bad thing.


It's not a major thing but Jin brought it up and at this point I don't really view it as possible to catch up to the likes of Neversoft in terms of reputation points so making it apply to the amount you earn per day or by the amount you got per post seemed like a way to negate the bonus of having been a member for longer. I feel it would probably better reflect user's opinions of the person rather than an accumulated total over time.

you say it'll be hard to catch up with the likes of neversoft - but the thing is he's been on the forum (i'm guessing 05?) coming up 6 years maybe, and has always been an active member who makes good posts... therefore receives a lot of rep.

[Inseriousity.]

I do like gaining rep points - infact I was looking forward to being on par with agms etc - which I would have been in the next few weeks if they didn't change it :L

On the other hand, I am not that bothered for it - it really isn't that big a deal.

Yes but what I mean is you don't go round making posts crossing your fingers for some rep. That's just a bonus if it happens to come your way. I could be wrong though but I'd be very worried about someone who only posts for +rep on an online forum