Reputation

[benjamin]

I think what you were trying to say is that new members outside of the 'elite' would have their reputation rise faster because the 'elite' can only be repped by (number of elite)-1 where as the new member could be repped by the whole elite.

Or at least I think that's what you were trying to say.

kind of, yeah. but on a more wide scale. basically what i'm just trying to say is that if someone deserves the rep, then they'll get it. and the fact that there are quite a few active members with a high reputation power - will make others rep go up a lot quicker.

but yeah i agree with the other few people who have said that rep isn't what it used to be - no one cares as much any more.

[Chippiewill]

kind of, yeah. but on a more wide scale. basically what i'm just trying to say is that if someone deserves the rep, then they'll get it. and the fact that there are quite a few active members with a high reputation power - will make others rep go up a lot quicker.

Ahh, but if they're equally respected then they'd always stay the same amount behind a person who is equally respected which would be mis-representative of the respect that they each have.

but yeah i agree with the other few people who have said that rep isn't what it used to be - no one cares as much any more.

I think this would increase the importance of rep because suddenly people who joined two years ago rather than six would be on par with them and they'd actually be able to compare it.

[Hecktix]

It's interesting to hear what Nicola says about the reputation system as she's the one who sees what kind of rep people leave on a daily basis with dealing with the report reputation thread.

I think the idea is a good idea but I think it's effort where effort isn't needed and that there are more important areas we could put our coding task force to, for instance when we appoint a new coder for the forum (very soon there's a tonne of bugs to fix and a few other ideas we've wanted to implement for a while too which rank above this.

I think the more obvious thing to do would be to encourage users to use the reputation system more, as I feel the system we have is quite good and should benefit all users in the way it's set up, afterall rep is really to encourage good posting, we only really give rep elsewhere to boost figures to make people more likely to use their rep.

I think a good old fashioned campaign to persuade people to use the rep system would be a good idea before persuing any further changes to the rep system, for now anyway.

[benjamin]

Ahh, but if they're equally respected then they'd always stay the same amount behind a person who is equally respected which would be mis-representative of the respect that they each have.

I think this would increase the importance of rep because suddenly people who joined two years ago rather than six would be on par with them and they'd actually be able to compare it.

i do see where you're coming from, but then there is still the fact about how long someone has been on the forum and the amount of posts they have. when the new person has the same amount of posts and has been on the forum for the same amount of time - who knows how much they will have then?

(i know you mentioned something about join date and amount of posts, but it's late and i didn't quite understand - so apologies if that comment covered that)

[Chippiewill]

Ok, because I don't think some people understand.

I am proposing that before the amount of reputation points you have is submitted to the function which works out how many green blocks you should have it is divided by either:

a) Your post count
b) Days since you joined HabboxForum

If vBulletin is coded in any sensible way then this would involve adding one line of code and would be completely secure and wouldn't take up vast hours of coding time.

This in no way gives people more rep points for being around for longer or for more posts (Which is the impression I'm getting from some) but would increase a displayed reputation for making higher quality posts (Post count option) or for being more active (Day count option).

[Hecktix]

Ok, because I don't think some people understand.

I am proposing that before the amount of reputation points you have is submitted to the function which works out how many green blocks you should have it is divided by either:

a) Your post count
b) Days since you joined HabboxForum

If vBulletin is coded in any sensible way then this would involve adding one line of code and would be completely secure and wouldn't take up vast hours of coding time.

This in no way gives people more rep points for being around for longer or for more posts (Which is the impression I'm getting from some) but would increase a displayed reputation for making higher quality posts (Post count option) or for being more active (Day count option).

I understood what you meant I just think it's a bit over complicated when the system works fine as it is, really Don't fix what isn't broken & all that.

[FlyingJesus]

it would be possible that someone who had been around for a few months but was respected as much as Neversoft

I don't believe this would be possible unless the person in question was some sort of real life celebrity tbh - I think it'd be a huge disrespect to Chirs' contributions on the forum to be implied as equal to someone who's only just turned up, and having rep points / post count or join date would essentially mean that if one of us no-lifers repped a new member on their first post their reputation would show as being around 30x what ours is just for saying hello. Also if it was done with join date as a divisive factor it would mean that everyone's rep would dwindle over time, and inactive former legends like Smiddy who hasn't been on since 2009 would eventually be made to look as though he'd never done anything for the forum and wasn't wildly popular

[Neversoft]

That wasn't really my concern, but at the moment you could be just as respected as Neversoft and get for example twenty reputation points per day but because you joined many years later, they'd always be 10,000 reputation points ahead.

What is wrong with that? As I said to Jin the other day, the reputation hierarchy on this forum is incredibly average and everything is as it should be - nothing needs changing. On nearly every single forum that uses the reputation system older users who have stayed active will naturally have higher reputation and as Ben says, they have all put more into the forum (so to speak) so really I don't see why anyone should have a problem with that. These days you can pretty much tell if a newer member is respected or popular by looking at their rep blocks anyway.

[Grig]

At the end of the day, reputation should be for useful reasons. I know when nvrspk4 was in his AGM/GM roles he cracked upon people giving out useless reputation and cleared useless rep from users. I don't think the system should actually be changed, but rather could be taken care of in a more vigilant way like it was in the olden days. I would be the first to admit that I have a reputation or point or two from some completely useless post in a staff spam thread.

As for the current system, I do not see a problem.

[Josh]

People with high rep (I'll be a sheep and say Neversoft) have earnt that rep. I don't think it would be very fair for years of effort put into the forum to be earnt in a matter of months/weeks/days.