Plan to bring UK clocks forward

[FlyingJesus]

I have never heard once somebody say 'gosh, I wish our clocks were put to Berlin time'

IF ONLY WE COULD MAKE IT SO IT WAS DARKER WHEN I WAKE UP.

Seriously if people want to come home and have light, get a night job

[-:Undertaker:-]

well for one - we're not portugal. yeah it isn't such an issue, but there aren't exactly the same people around that were in the 70s. peoples ways of living change - peoples needs could potentially be different now to what they were - and having more sunlight in the evening may prove beneficial to a lot more people now than it did back in the 70s (or whenever it was given a trial).

We are in line with portgal though, probably more so than any other country - almost directly under Portugal geographically. If the best example is needed, Portugal is that example as it is in the exact same position/boat as Britain is - infact we are worse because we have Scotland which is more up North.

maybe there hasn't been such demand for it because it doesn't cross peoples minds that it could change - until i saw this thread tonight i wouldn't have thought about changing our time zone, but now it has been bought to my attention, i would be all for the change. also, the tourism industry is (i assume, anyway) a lot different and possibly bigger to what it was in the 70s, and it's been pointed out it would benefit that industry in particular.

There is no evidence it would benefit the tourism industry what-so-ever really, and if you think about it it makes little sense at all that a one hour difference would make much of an impact on business - if business wants to open earlier than it can do so already I assume, if not then it is not the time which is at fault it is the restrictions placed on business by government which we should be looking at.

If anybody in government was seriously worried and concerned about business/tourism, they would not be allowing thousands of costly regulations a year come from Brussel and Whitehall to continue and then theres the issue of high tax rates which we have in this country which also hurt business. So this isn't about business and don't let them fool you into thinking it is by throwing out made-up figures which are mere guesswork.

i usually go by "if it isn't broken, don't fix it", but in this circumstance i just feel that it'd be a good change.

You would like it to be dark when you wake up?
You would like it to be sunlight at around 12 at midnight during the summer months?

This change will affect your body clock which, although it can be altered - it still ticks to day and night.

[Nuxty]

This is the most pathetic, outrageous idea I have heard from this sham of a government. I think it is terrible that they are even considering messing with time and make changes to it just so it can improve tourism. There are more major issues that need sorting out before they go messing with our clocks! :@

[benjamin]

We are in line with portgal though, probably more so than any other country - almost directly under Portugal geographically. If the best example is needed, Portugal is that example as it is in the exact same position/boat as Britain is - infact we are worse because we have Scotland which is more up North.



There is no evidence it would benefit the tourism industry what-so-ever really, and if you think about it it makes little sense at all that a one hour difference would make much of an impact on business - if business wants to open earlier than it can do so already I assume, if not then it is not the time which is at fault it is the restrictions placed on business by government which we should be looking at.

If anybody in government was seriously worried and concerned about business/tourism, they would not be allowing thousands of costly regulations a year come from Brussel and Whitehall to continue and then theres the issue of high tax rates which we have in this country which also hurt business. So this isn't about business and don't let them fool you into thinking it is by throwing out made-up figures which are mere guesswork.



You would like it to be dark when you wake up?
You would like it to be sunlight at around 12 at midnight during the summer months?

This change will affect your body clock which, although it can be altered - it still ticks to day and night.

- we may be in line with portugal, but still - we are not portugal. different people, different needs, different opinions.
- a business opening earlier will not have the same effect as staying open later, you can trust me on that one. people have more free time in the evenings, more people will have free time/be able to do more in the evenings than the mornings anyway.
- if i'm completely honest, i'm not overly fussed about the tourism industry as it doesn't directly effect me (in a way it does with my job, but nothing this time change would effecet), and i just saw it as a positive for others more than anything.
- and yes, i honestly would rather wake up when it's dark, and light until around midnight in the summer. it would suit me down to the ground.

[Jordy]

This is the most pathetic, outrageous idea I have heard from this sham of a government. I think it is terrible that they are even considering messing with time and make changes to it just so it can improve tourism. There are more major issues that need sorting out before they go messing with our clocks! :@

Grow up, it's only changing the time on your watch. And clearly you've not listened to much of what the coalition has to say if this is the most "pathetic" and "outrageous idea" considering prisoners got the vote last week, that's just one small example.

[alexxxxx]

We are in line with portgal though, probably more so than any other country - almost directly under Portugal geographically. If the best example is needed, Portugal is that example as it is in the exact same position/boat as Britain is - infact we are worse because we have Scotland which is more up North.

not really at all. unless you count N ireland as the majority of the UK... for some reason that map shows that iceland is not in the same timezone, it is but it doesnt put its clock forward..

[The Don]

I really dislike this idea. Trying to make all of europe the same, I really dislike how we are getting this involved with it and closer to becoming part of a supernation.

[-:Undertaker:-]

- we may be in line with portugal, but still - we are not portugal. different people, different needs, different opinions.
- a business opening earlier will not have the same effect as staying open later, you can trust me on that one. people have more free time in the evenings, more people will have free time/be able to do more in the evenings than the mornings anyway.
- if i'm completely honest, i'm not overly fussed about the tourism industry as it doesn't directly effect me (in a way it does with my job, but nothing this time change would effecet), and i just saw it as a positive for others more than anything.
- and yes, i honestly would rather wake up when it's dark, and light until around midnight in the summer. it would suit me down to the ground.

Indeed, and i've argued against all those points that the coalition government has put out as has Peter Hitchens in the article I linked earlier on - time afterall is geographical and not down to opinon. But I guess we'll agree to disagree - it looks many of us will be buying blackout curtains very shortly.

Grow up, it's only changing the time on your watch. And clearly you've not listened to much of what the coalition has to say if this is the most "pathetic" and "outrageous idea" considering prisoners got the vote last week, that's just one small example.

I knocked back the coalitions arguments as has Peter Hitchens, this has nothing to do with business - another whitewash by this government.

not really at all. unless you count N ireland as the majority of the UK... for some reason that map shows that iceland is not in the same timezone, it is but it doesnt put its clock forward..

The Earth is curve though remember, when flat on a map such as the one you linked it appears as though the British Isles is out of line in the time we use - it is not, think back to geography when you have to cut out the lines for making a paperball Earth. The time zone we are in at the moment (along with Portugal) matches rather well.

[Jordy]

I knocked back the coalitions arguments as has Peter Hitchens, this has nothing to do with business - another whitewash by this government.

What is this to do with then?

And FYI I quoted someone else, not you or Peter Hitchens.

[alexxxxx]

What is this to do with then?

And FYI I quoted someone else, not you or Peter Hitchens.

EU conspiracy. as is everything.