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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative, View Post
    If they're not the best, tell them how to improve for next time? I re-applied 6 TIMES before getting into HxL. If Oli wants people who will listen to feedback and take criticism, the best way of having them is having these trials, then if they fail, they can take feedback from the trial, then go away, get some experience, and come back.

    Nearly every other site I know does this in one form or another, and it really helps the standard of the radio.
    I think the fact Habbox offers the chance for DJs to get training to be a better DJ is what puts it ahead of other fansites, no other fansites radio is more successful than HxL therefore it's not really an issue. I've always believed in learning from mistakes and it is in my eyes that without mistakes it's a lot harder to learn. If Habbox hires awful DJs who show no sign of improvement they last 5 minutes here, 90% of HxL shows I listen to (and when I'm at uni I have HabboxLive on my headphones 80% of the time I am online, before anybody says Gen Management dont listen to HxL) are of a standard that I believe is acceptable for Habbox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinasaw View Post
    If someone wants to know why they didn't get accepted then they can PM Jess to get some feedback on their application that's always been the case
    It's not publicized enough then, because I have never seen that anywhere. But as I said - the 5-10 trials are hardly time consuming and it improve the standard of radio immensely. If you can;t use SAM, you can't be a good DJ. Sure it's not that hard to learn, but surely you want someone with experience than a complete noob having no idea what they're doing on air?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative, View Post
    It's not publicized enough then, because I have never seen that anywhere. But as I said - the 5-10 trials are hardly time consuming and it improve the standard of radio immensely. If you can;t use SAM, you can't be a good DJ. Sure it's not that hard to learn, but surely you want someone with experience than a complete noob having no idea what they're doing on air?
    Not really hard to get used to know how to use SAM broadcaster, many DJs join using winamp and as you know it's not allowed and find it easy to convert over to SAM broadcaster Saying if you can't use SAM you can't be a good DJ is just silly though because they can they just need to learn how to use it. Every feedback PM i've sent i've got a reply saying that they agree with everything I said to them and tend to take it on board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinasaw View Post
    Not really hard to get used to know how to use SAM broadcaster, many DJs join using winamp and as you know it's not allowed and find it easy to convert over to SAM broadcaster Saying if you can't use SAM you can't be a good DJ is just silly though because they can they just need to learn how to use it. Every feedback PM i've sent i've got a reply saying that they agree with everything I said to them and tend to take it on board.
    Yeah, you can learn, but someone who can't use SAM NOW, can't be a good DJ NOW. I just think Lethal brought up a good point, and James is backing it.

    A 10 minute radio trial is NOT too much too ask. If the DJ has a good voice, but can't use SAM, maybe give them the 2 week trial? But it's just to see how good they really are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dinasaw View Post
    Like I said we can give them a 10 minute trial server and if they aren't the best then don't give them a trial. We've had some DJs that weren't so good before their trial and then become some of the best DJs on habboxlive based on feedback given to them!
    It's all about improvement I agree with you there but Habboxlive is the most popualar fan-site of habbo and DJ's on other sites wish they DJ'ed here.
    And Well Habboxlives approach to applicants is if your application isn't good (Voice-clip) then you don't get a trial. What I'm saying is management need to be more stricter in the quality of DJ's from their applications. I know I might get flamed or w/e! Habbox live is the site DJ's aim to DJ on and Well if you do base it on a 10min trial then the one's who pass will be of good quality and well the one's who fail can DJ on a smaller fansite until their experience is good enough to apply again. It will mean Habboxlive getting Less DJ's but it will mean the quality of the DJ's is good. Hope that makes sense
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative, View Post
    Yeah, you can learn, but someone who can't use SAM NOW, can't be a good DJ NOW. I just think Lethal brought up a good point, and James is backing it.

    A 10 minute radio trial is NOT too much too ask. If the DJ has a good voice, but can't use SAM, maybe give them the 2 week trial? But it's just to see how good they really are.
    We want good DJs a DJ can be good even if they can't use sam broadcaster, it's really not hard to learn how to use it imo.

    A 10 minute trial isn't much to ask for just 9 hours from Jess every time applications are open. We don't want to turn away DJs that aren't VERY good we can hire them and help them improve it's something we've always done for as long as I have been here I really do not think it needs changing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by You-Lethal View Post
    It's all about improvement I agree with you there but Habboxlive is the most popualar fan-site of habbo and DJ's on other sites wish they DJ'ed here.
    And Well Habboxlives approach to applicants is if your application isn't good (Voice-clip) then you don't get a trial. What I'm saying is management need to be more stricter in the quality of DJ's from their applications. I know I might get flamed or w/e! Habbox live is the site DJ's aim to DJ on and Well if you do base it on a 10min trial then the one's who pass will be of good quality and well the one's who fail can DJ on a smaller fansite until their experience is good enough to apply again. It will mean Habboxlive getting Less DJ's but it will mean the quality of the DJ's is good. Hope that makes sense
    To me it does. We judge purely on the voice, and that isn't right. Confidence on live radio is different to recording a clip. Songs - what if all their songs are awful quality? There is more to it than their voice and that's what is judge with the 10 minute trial.

    If you think you can improve them after listening to the 10 min trial, by all means hire them, but as lethal said, we are the site all DJs aim for. If we set the bar high, then they will aim for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dinasaw View Post
    We want good DJs a DJ can be good even if they can't use sam broadcaster, it's really not hard to learn how to use it imo.

    A 10 minute trial isn't much to ask for just 9 hours from Jess every time applications are open. We don't want to turn away DJs that aren't VERY good we can hire them and help them improve it's something we've always done for as long as I have been here I really do not think it needs changing.
    9 hours? No, what James said is what we're looking for - take the best 10(ish) applications and trial them. Then take the best few from them. It also sets a new place to aim for. For example; a new DJ could aim for getting to the trial, then next time round, aim for getting through.

    And if you split it between the 4 Head DJs & Jess...that's what, 20 minutes each? Maybe get the Senior DJs to help out? And even get regular DJs to give their opinions? It's not much work, I've done it before, it really helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative, View Post
    To me it does. We judge purely on the voice, and that isn't right. Confidence on live radio is different to recording a clip. Songs - what if all their songs are awful quality? There is more to it than their voice and that's what is judge with the 10 minute trial.

    If you think you can improve them after listening to the 10 min trial, by all means hire them, but as lethal said, we are the site all DJs aim for. If we set the bar high, then they will aim for that.

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    9 hours? No, what James said is what we're looking for - take the best 10(ish) applications and trial them. Then take the best few from them. It also sets a new place to aim for. For example; a new DJ could aim for getting to the trial, then next time round, aim for getting through.

    And if you split it between the 4 Head DJs & Jess...that's what, 20 minutes each? Maybe get the Senior DJs to help out? And even get regular DJs to give their opinions? It's not much work, I've done it before, it really helps.
    So you're wanting us not to judge people on their applications yet you want us to single out 10 of them by their application..ok :S
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinasaw View Post
    So you're wanting us not to judge people on their applications yet you want us to single out 10 of them by their application..ok :S
    Break it down when judging people.

    For example, talent shows (eg; X Factor break it down like this:
    1. Are they a good singer.
    2. Are they a good performer
    3. Are they going to make it

    We can break it down like this;

    1. Do they have a good voice (First application)
    2. Do they have a good knowledge of SAM (10 min trial)
    3. Are they an all round good DJ and entertainer (2 week trial)

    Voila.

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    Doing trials on a private server is time consuming and I am willing to do them (and plan to in the next couple of weeks if we need DJs) but opening apps and telling 10-15 people that they have trials at certain times wouldn't work. People wouldn't be able to fit perfectly into 2 hours that we allocate and would want trials at all different times. A few weeks ago we did some trials on a test server and it was meant to be a few people, I think we did 6/7 in total and it took about 3 hours because we were waiting around for people.

    In DJ applications what I look for is natural ability, someone who sounds good and like they would be entertaining on air. Then obviously you look at the experience they have etc. The majority of DJs that are hired do have experience and know how to use SAM broadcaster. Those that are less experienced may not start out the best but they develop in that 2 week trial and so many DJs improve in that time. There are tons of DJs who started off really bad but went on to become the best DJs we ever had (past managers/head DJs/seniors). If you have music, a working mic and sound good in your clip then you can be a good DJ. The 2 weeks gives people chance to settle in and show what they can do.

    If anyone ever has an issue with a DJ on air then you can let me know and I will make sure that it gets addressed so that the DJ can improve. One of the most important things to me is helping DJs to improve and making sure that they have the support to do that and the Head and Senior DJs are doing a great job at making that happen at the moment and they will continue to do so.

    So basically at the moment we will keep the 2 week trial period and that will always be there even if we have more server trials which we will try to do in the future. It is important that we give people a chance to show that they can improve and not judge them on 10 minutes which is an extremely pressurised situation and not something many people would want to do.

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