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    Default Do you believe what this guy says?

    If not, why?

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    I have black friends, Asian friends and Muslim friends. I agree with some of the points he makes but obviously not all of them. Fair play to this guy for speaking his mind.


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    THat is possibly the most stupid video ever.

    First he says he isnt racist, then goes onto talk about deporting all muslims and blacks. WHAT? Talk about generalisations and hypocrisy much? Then says "45% of the government jobs etc. are taken by blacks, and we wonder why it doesnt work", yes thats bloody racist. And doesnt want black people to vote.

    This guy is an idiot and just generalises by race, he says that the black people are only voting by race, yet he is discriminating and generalising through race. Complete idiot and should be ignored.

    Please richie, tell me what you agree with in the middle of all that crap? Besides the deportation of illegal immigrants which i believe everyone is against anyway.


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    I believe those wasting governments money claiming benefits sitting on their asses should be deported. Don't get me wrong, this is going to sound really racist but that persons home government should be supporting them not Irish government for example. Hey, if we could ship all the lazy Irish *******s somewhere with reason, I would too but I still feel an Irish citizen is entitled to their home governments money more than a foreigner. It annoys me how foreigners who live in Dublin scab off our government, they actually get more support than Irish citizens. My mother is a widow and doesn't work (within reason), she has been for the last 6 years, trying to support a family through benefits and there is people she knows who are non-irish citizens who get their, rent, esb and get additional funds for food. They have fancy cars and fancy homes. There is no other reasoning behind it. My mother has discussed it with her foreign friends and they admitted to receiving a large sum of money from the government every week which they don't entirely need.
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    Why can't people like this just **** and get along with everyone else or keep their opinions to themselves cause it's happened now so deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richie View Post
    I believe those wasting governments money claiming benefits sitting on their asses should be deported. Don't get me wrong, this is going to sound really racist but that persons home government should be supporting them not Irish government for example. Hey, if we could ship all the lazy Irish *******s somewhere with reason, I would too but I still feel an Irish citizen is entitled to their home governments money more than a foreigner. It annoys me how foreigners who live in Dublin scab off our government, they actually get more support than Irish citizens. My mother is a widow and doesn't work (within reason), she has been for the last 6 years, trying to support a family through benefits and there is people she knows who are non-irish citizens who get their, rent, esb and get additional funds for food. They have fancy cars and fancy homes. There is no other reasoning behind it. My mother has discussed it with her foreign friends and they admitted to receiving a large sum of money from the government every week which they don't entirely need.
    I always find that arguement rather silly if im honest. Many of those who you consider foreigners, are actually born in, your case, Ireland and are just as much 'Irish' as you are. There is no way to determine who is foreign other than that, unless you look at one's heritage. But then where do you stop? Because eventually you're just gonna end up at Africa, not to mention the extra effort required to look at EVERYONE's family tree.

    As well as this 'extra money' stuff, i really am confused by. My family too is on benefits, and i dont see where they would be getting all these fancy cars and such from. My mum is on disability aswell as normal benefits and only because of the disability is she able to afford extras (such as petrol, (my nan bought us our car)). And even then we still have to borrow money. It is in no way an 'easy' life as everyone assumes where you can just sit on ur ass and get free money. The free money you do get it is not a great deal (atleast in England), and your quality of life is far lower than someone who does have a job. Sure you can say they get it for free, but as i said your quality of life is so much lower that most people would probably want a job if they enjoyed it.

    Saying i do believe that my family is probably going to give back in the long run unlike a lot of families on benefits, purely because we're likely to get good jobs (sister gots to oxford bragbragbragbrag).


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    Quote Originally Posted by NaughtyNemo View Post
    I always find that arguement rather silly if im honest. Many of those who you consider foreigners, are actually born in, your case, Ireland and are just as much 'Irish' as you are. There is no way to determine who is foreign other than that, unless you look at one's heritage. But then where do you stop? Because eventually you're just gonna end up at Africa, not to mention the extra effort required to look at EVERYONE's family tree.

    As well as this 'extra money' stuff, i really am confused by. My family too is on benefits, and i dont see where they would be getting all these fancy cars and such from. My mum is on disability aswell as normal benefits and only because of the disability is she able to afford extras (such as petrol, (my nan bought us our car)). And even then we still have to borrow money. It is in no way an 'easy' life as everyone assumes where you can just sit on ur ass and get free money. The free money you do get it is not a great deal (atleast in England), and your quality of life is far lower than someone who does have a job. Sure you can say they get it for free, but as i said your quality of life is so much lower that most people would probably want a job if they enjoyed it.

    Saying i do believe that my family is probably going to give back in the long run unlike a lot of families on benefits, purely because we're likely to get good jobs (sister gots to oxford bragbragbragbrag).
    Your mother gets benefits as well as disability allowance? My Mam apparently isn't entitled to a disability allowance, even though she has got a disability. I know this is going off topic but I don't get the government sometimes. My friend who is deaf gets disability allowance because he is deaf (19) yet my mother doesn't and he can allot clearer than her. Yes both of my parents are/were deaf and we never received any fees for disability's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richie View Post
    Your mother gets benefits as well as disability allowance? My Mam apparently isn't entitled to a disability allowance, even though she has got a disability. I know this is going off topic but I don't get the government sometimes. My friend who is deaf gets disability allowance because he is deaf (19) yet my mother doesn't and he can allot clearer than her. Yes both of my parents are/were deaf and we never received any fees for disability's.
    Need to pressure your GP then


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    I agree to an extent that political correctness does go too far in some cases.

    For example. There used to be a black guy in my year that did some really messed up things. As well as that he would blatantly insult and disgrace other people publically. He would grief people about every little imperfection they might have and he would make up horrible rumours about people.

    Yet people tolerated him. Why was that? People were afraid to say anything to him since he was one of only two black people in the school.

    Also this thing about sex equality in the EU and now in Ireland doesn't sit right with me. The best people for the job should get the job , whether that be male or female. It shouldn't be getting more of one sex in just to make it 50-50.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eoin247 View Post
    I agree to an extent that political correctness does go too far in some cases.

    For example. There used to be a black guy in my year that did some really messed up things. As well as that he would blatantly insult and disgrace other people publically. He would grief people about every little imperfection they might have and he would make up horrible rumours about people.

    Yet people tolerated him. Why was that? People were afraid to say anything to him since he was one of only two black people in the school.

    Also this thing about sex equality in the EU and now in Ireland doesn't sit right with me. The best people for the job should get the job , whether that be male or female. It shouldn't be getting more of one sex in just to make it 50-50.
    I think thats really picking up on something that isnt there. Is he doing that because hes black? No. Were people scared of him because he was black? No. They were scared of him because he was a thug and you're just, for some reason , correlating that with his colour. There was a >>>WHITE<<<< guy who lived opposite me for most of my childhood. He had a random hatred for my family and did whatever he could to annoy/harm/harrass us. That included giving me some pretty large bruises, paintballing our car, throwing stones at us etc. Was that because he was white? No. I never made that correlation because im not stupid. I put it down to him being brought up badly and being a thug. We dealt with him like we deal with all thugs, called the police and eventually he stopped (and now moved).

    Whats with people generalising so much these days, it's as if crappy propeganda like that terrible video in the OP is actually getting to some people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NaughtyNemo View Post
    I think thats really picking up on something that isnt there. Is he doing that because hes black? No. Were people scared of him because he was black? No. They were scared of him because he was a thug and you're just, for some reason , correlating that with his colour. There was a >>>WHITE<<<< guy who lived opposite me for most of my childhood. He had a random hatred for my family and did whatever he could to annoy/harm/harrass us. That included giving me some pretty large bruises, paintballing our car, throwing stones at us etc. Was that because he was white? No. I never made that correlation because im not stupid. I put it down to him being brought up badly and being a thug. We dealt with him like we deal with all thugs, called the police and eventually he stopped (and now moved).

    Whats with people generalising so much these days, it's as if crappy propeganda like that terrible video in the OP is actually getting to some people.
    I don't think you read my post properly because you completely misunderstood me. I said "People were afraid to say anything to him since he was one of only two black people in the school". This was my point. I didn't say he was how he was because of his skin colour >>>ANYWHERE<<< in my post.
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