Posting Competitions

[myke]

No, because you have no idea about running a forum or a fansite. At the end of the day people often point out that Habbox has too many members that don't post, so we set up a system to encourage them to post. The aim is to show them the benefits from posting on HabboxForum. I disagree with the principle of a posting competition in itself however I see the long term possible effects, ive spoken to 5 people in the top ten, one of whom posted 2 times in 2 months before this competition. She now has over 100 posts and all are of good quality (I checked). I asked her if she enjoyed posting and whether she would post as much after the competition and she said "Its shown me that the forum is quite fun, I didn't think it would be because it used to seem quite boring, I obviously won't post as much as I won't be trying to win but I'll definitely post more than before" - similarly the girl who posted above also said this.

At the end of the day my concern is this sites future and if new users don't start posting older ones (like you) will start disappearing and this forum will be left on it's arse. That's why we put focus on new users and don't give me bullcrap that older users don't get anything because I spent nearly 70% of my time as Forum Manager pleasing older users and I realised after too long that it's not the way forward and doesn't work. This competition doesn't effect how you post on HabboxForum, you are moaning for the sake of it. Numerous users have posted in this thread proving how this competition is nothing but beneficial to this forum, Milestone (who not gonna lie usually annoys the hell out of me in feedback) is quite against this competition in principle but he recognises that if it makes one person post more than they did before after the competition, it's good for HabboxForum.

Open your eyes, please.

Oh and those accusing me of being rude, calling someone a fool or foolish isn't against the HabboxForum rules, it's barely rude and is showing my opinion that he is acting unwisely.

i think thats up for someone else to decide not you Oli

and just because he doesnt know how to run a fansite or whatever doesn't make his opinion invalid.

you've turned back into being rude again and it's not good and it's definitely going to put people off using the forum and especially giving feedback which could be essential.

[Hecktix]

Tbh it's not about whether it's rude or not, it's about you being management and should be treating people's opinions with respect and not calling them fools or whatever

If that's the case I apologise for calling RockyHorror a fool, although I do suggest he should see the reasoning behind this. Older users are not the future of HabboxForum, unfortunately and as Richie has said to me on MSN he sees that something needs to be done about newer members and as I said to him, this is one way of doing it and if it doesn't work we'll seek further alternatives.

[AgnesIO]

pmsl I remember when I made that thread in spam and people where getting stressed because I was acting like a religious freak LOL


A fool is just a nice alternative to idiot, it isn't justifiable.

Calling someone a fool is perfectly acceptable.

[RockyHorror]

No, because you have no idea about running a forum or a fansite. At the end of the day people often point out that Habbox has too many members that don't post, so we set up a system to encourage them to post. The aim is to show them the benefits from posting on HabboxForum. I disagree with the principle of a posting competition in itself however I see the long term possible effects, ive spoken to 5 people in the top ten, one of whom posted 2 times in 2 months before this competition. She now has over 100 posts and all are of good quality (I checked). I asked her if she enjoyed posting and whether she would post as much after the competition and she said "Its shown me that the forum is quite fun, I didn't think it would be because it used to seem quite boring, I obviously won't post as much as I won't be trying to win but I'll definitely post more than before" - similarly the girl who posted above also said this.

At the end of the day my concern is this sites future and if new users don't start posting older ones (like you) will start disappearing and this forum will be left on it's arse. That's why we put focus on new users and don't give me bullcrap that older users don't get anything because I spent nearly 70% of my time as Forum Manager pleasing older users and I realised after too long that it's not the way forward and doesn't work. This competition doesn't effect how you post on HabboxForum, you are moaning for the sake of it. Numerous users have posted in this thread proving how this competition is nothing but beneficial to this forum, Milestone (who not gonna lie usually annoys the hell out of me in feedback) is quite against this competition in principle but he recognises that if it makes one person post more than they did before after the competition, it's good for HabboxForum.

Open your eyes, please.

Oh and those accusing me of being rude, calling someone a fool or foolish isn't against the HabboxForum rules, it's barely rude and is showing my opinion that he is acting unwisely.

You know nothing about me, so please stop making judgements. I haven't once judged you without it having a direct relation to the point in case, which if you've forgotten is about a posting competition and not your apparent dislike of older users "like me".

You open your eyes, your suppose to be the voice of reason, yet your attacking me personally for my opinions.

[Hecktix]

Calling someone a fool is perfectly acceptable.

This isn't about whether it's acceptable though Dom, people read my post as rude and for that I can only apologise. I read RockyHorror's post as quite rude suggesting I don't care about existing members of this site - if I didn't do that I wouldn't slave my arse off day after day to ensure it's possible for the site to continue for a long time, but people don't see that.

I understand that people will not agree with everything we do, however either way more people need to start posting on this forum or when the older members leave (as we have seen recently a few prominent older members grow up and leave hxf) they simply won't be replaced, and the attitude that new members shouldn't be encouraged to post is one that I'd really like to wipe out.

I think people should start listening to you, Dom - because you are against the idea of a posting competition as much as the others but you have the ability to open your eyes and see the benefits it could have.

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You know nothing about me, so please stop making judgements. I haven't once judged you without it having a direct relation to the point in case, which if you've forgotten is about a posting competition and not your apparent dislike of older users "like me".

You open your eyes, your suppose to be the voice of reason, yet your attacking me personally for my opinions.

Do you actually care about your users? You seem so focused on getting the forum more popular that you don't care about the impact it has on your existent users.

I would say that is judging me, so let's not go down that line eh?

[RockyHorror]

I understand that people will not agree with everything we do, however either way more people need to start posting on this forum or when the older members leave (as we have seen recently a few prominent older members grow up and leave hxf) they simply won't be replaced, and the attitude that new members shouldn't be encouraged to post is one that I'd really like to wipe out.

Don't you think it's a problem that people can "grow up and leave" there shouldn't be an age bracket on this forum just because it was primely set up as a Habbo fansite, there is a whole separate community that has nothing to do with Habbo.

There are millions of forums out there with users a lot older than that come on here, it's a reflection of how the forum is managed if you can't/won't look after older members.

I would say that is judging me, so let's not go down that line eh?

I was directly reacting to your comment above mine, we'll go down that line if you want because it's perfectly clear to anybody not afflicted to you, that you are overstepping the mark.

[Hecktix]

Don't you think it's a problem that people can "grow up and leave" there shouldn't be an age bracket on this forum just because it was primely set up as a Habbo fansite, there is a whole separate community that has nothing to do with Habbo.

There are millions of forums out there with users a lot older than that come on here, it's a reflection of how the forum is managed if you can't/won't look after older members.



I was directly reacting to your comment above mine, we'll go down that line if you want because it's perfectly clear to anybody not afflicted to you, that you are overstepping the mark.

Oh here we go, the "this forum doesnt have to be a habbo forum" again. Our target audience is 11-19 and this is the target audience we are going to work to, there are users older than this, I am nearing the end of this bracket myself and I don't mind this however I'm not going to focus on retaining older users because the older users are not the future of this site, people grow up, people leave the internet. You suggesting that people growing up and leaving HabboxForum being a bad thing is absolutely crazy, as you said there are forums that cater for older users. I have no problem with older users being here and a lot of people around when I was Forum Manager know that I will accomodate them here, but this site is primarily a Habbo forum and at the end of the day if the Habbo audience isn't coming over here this forum will die.

You may have the opinion that this forum could run fine without Habbo, but you couldn't be more wrong.

[HotelUser]

Don't you think it's a problem that people can "grow up and leave" there shouldn't be an age bracket on this forum just because it was primely set up as a Habbo fansite, there is a whole separate community that has nothing to do with Habbo.

There are millions of forums out there with users a lot older than that come on here, it's a reflection of how the forum is managed if you can't/won't look after older members.



I was directly reacting to your comment above mine, we'll go down that line if you want because it's perfectly clear to anybody not afflicted to you, that you are overstepping the mark.

Habbox is and always has been a Habbo fansite first. Our target audience is typically teenagers and young adults and that is not going to change. Our departments are oriented around Habbo. Habbo News, Rare Values, Help Desk and so on. I think yes you are right Habbox Forum is obviously at the heart of all this and it would be absolutely fantastic if we could attract users and have it be guaranteed that they will stay years and years and never leave even when they've completely grown, although if there's one thing you observe after having been here even a few years it is that nobody is ever here forever. We can't stop that fact unfortunately and I don't think we should neglect all Habbo aspects of our Habbo fansite to attempt to.

[Rozi]

I haven't read the whole thread cause quite frankly I cba but from what I've skimmed through people seem to be having an incredibly small minded approach towards this. Yes, at the moment some people's posting may be a bit annoying but imo posting competitions have a far reaching effect on the forum in the long term, past the end of the competition. It gets new users used to posting for a REASON.

I'm sure some of you remember when RobbieG joined the forum and started posting a lot, many people were annoyed because at that point he seemed to post SO MUCH and for no reason, which earned him a reputation of being a spammer, and therefore, fairly unliked by a few (yeah I know this wasn't the only reason ). Therefore this comp allows new users, or those that only post in certain sections an 'excuse' to post and make a 'name' for themselves on the forum without negative attention and so they don't stand out too much.

Also, I am certainly posting more as there are more discussions and things to post about, and I'm not even attempting to take part in the competition. Despite the fact some of these threads are frankly a bit brain dead, not everyone is willing to post in debates and more thoughtful threads, either because they don't want to enter into someone trying to shove their political views down the their throats, or aren't old enough to have strong views on things.

Oh and another thing - even though post counts don't raise in spam, it's been far more active than it has recently so yeah thumbs up.

someone's probs said all this before but whatevs.

[Inseriousity.]

Don't you think it's a problem that people can "grow up and leave" there shouldn't be an age bracket on this forum just because it was primely set up as a Habbo fansite, there is a whole separate community that has nothing to do with Habbo.

There are millions of forums out there with users a lot older than that come on here, it's a reflection of how the forum is managed if you can't/won't look after older members.

I think this is slightly unfair on the forum departments, past and present. Sure the posting competitions are not directed at you. Everything generally has a market audience and the posting competitions are for the Habbo lurkers who lurk around the forum not actually posting. However, that does not mean that suddenly older members are being neglected.

Member of the Month. While new users are not excluded from winning this ofc, as it's an award based on constructive and quality posts, it is more likely that older members will win this prize.

Awards. Again, while new users are not excluded, the forum awards like '6000 posts' are geared towards the older member. The popularity of these is questionable but all the same, older members have the advantage.

Debates. The forum debates are very sophisicated and normally aimed towards the more politically active, which is generally the older members.

5 year anniversary VIP - While I personally hate the colour (although who'd say no to 3 months free vip woo), this is without a doubt for the older members!

So it isn't that Habbox can't/won't look after older members. There are plenty of things out there that are for the older members, it's just this thing that isn't.