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    I'm American, And i got up to watch the Historical event happen. Just like the Election of my President ( But, i didn't watch that Don't really care for Obama, actually), You gotta watch these things so your kids know theyre facts when they grow up and have there own family. I can't wait to tell my little girl that i watch the present king (maybe?) get married. But, i'm just a silly little american teenager, who cares about me and my opinion.

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    Although I don't know much about it being from Canada and such, I respect the people who make a "big hype and deal" about it because to people in other regions, or to the older generations in Canada it's a part of their culture and it's a big deal to them.

    I think it's historically interesting, too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathew View Post
    Of course it's justified. Tens of millions of people will have tuned in to watch the Royal Wedding today. My family are friends with quite a few Americans and a lot of them woke up at 4am this morning to watch the wedding. Heck, when we visited St. Augustine (Florida) last February, a lady there was asked us if we were "excited for the Royal Wedding" - she admitted that "us Americans are probably more interested than you guys"

    How many times do you get news coverage and TV figures like that? In times of crisis is the answer - 9/11, London Bombings, Diana's Funeral, War. It's time to relax and enjoy a good day of a united country rather than moaning where your money has gone. There's 63 million people in this country; remember only £20 Million was spent.

    The benefits of merchandise would have been huge too. It's a truly important, "royal" occasion
    Firstly as i said before, the royal family get their money from the taxpayer anyway do they not? So the taxpayer and the royal family paying are the same thing pretty much.

    My main question is not being answered, same with most people on this thread. Reasonable royal wedding, understandable. Overly extravagant royal wedding, not understandable. Do you find that paying so much for things, that could have cost a lot less, normal and morally right? Multiple hugely expensive dresses in case one gets leaked?

    Just to add to that, both economy watch and the CBI have indeed said a 1 billion pound boost to the economy due to the wedding, as somebody earlier pointed out. However , they have also said that that it cost the UK economy 5 Billion in lost production. That's not taking into account overtime/ people going on short breaks. Believe it or not your royal wedding was actualy good for Ireland. We had many people from the UK coming over to Dublin for the day and spending here. The amount of people going from the UK to Ireland actualy surpassed the amount of people going from Ireland to the wedding. Which greatly surprised me, since i myself know a good few people who travelled to London for it.
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    It's a great moment in British history. I'm glad I stayed inside and tuned into the wedding because it will be something I can proudly tell my children, my grandchildren and possibly great-grand children in the future. It's not something that happens every day. The last one was 30 years ago! It was a spectacular event and I think all the hype, all the anticipation was worth it.

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    I think the main hype is the fact William is going to be the future king, so when he is King, it would be nice to say you witnessed his wedding.

    Off topic(ish);

    The public didn't pay for the wedding.. all the public paid for is the security, which they will get back easily. The royals and Middleton's paid for everything else lol.

    I don't get why people complain about paying taxes which go to the royal family and say she's rich enough, she can do it without taxes? I don't think people realise that the money the Queen gets is to do her official state business such as keeping good relationships with other countries, the money pays for all the staff in their palaces (which the government will get some of it back in taxes).

    I think we get a return on investment with the royal family. It costs 66p per person each year to fund the royal family, but they royals do a lot of charity work, they do the job of what a head of state would usually do, but for a lot less, they bring in a lot of money through tourism and they also have their own private businesses and the royals get a lot from the 6,600 million acres of land they own (which I also think they pay tax on?).

    Quote Originally Posted by Eoin247 View Post
    Surely having a public holiday will take more out of the economy than any amount of tourists visiting this wedding will bring in to it?
    Hardly anywhere actually closed. They simply worked sunday trading hours. As for the people who have the day off, they may do some shopping because they don't get the time usually, they may do something with their garden (so places like B&Q will profit from it) and most people on bank holidays go to the pub

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    People make a huge deal out of the money for security - you seem to be forgetting that the security people would still have been paid if there was no wedding - just they would probably be doing less (so actually, you could argue it made them worth the money it cost).

    William will be king one day, so obviously it is a huge event - people don't appreciate how much the queen does. She is 85 fgs, yet she does huge amounts of work - I would love to still be going like she is when I am 85.

    The fact Kate had 3 dresses made is understandable. If someone found out about what her dress was going to be, there would be millions of knock off ones being sold within days - it is a bit like at a school prom. I think for most girls turning up in the same dress as someone else would be a nightmare - so imagine what it is like to have the same wedding dress as 50 thousand other people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eoin247 View Post
    Surely having a public holiday will take more out of the economy than any amount of tourists visiting this wedding will bring in to it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Milestone View Post
    People make a huge deal out of the money for security - you seem to be forgetting that the security people would still have been paid if there was no wedding - just they would probably be doing less (so actually, you could argue it made them worth the money it cost).

    William will be king one day, so obviously it is a huge event - people don't appreciate how much the queen does. She is 85 fgs, yet she does huge amounts of work - I would love to still be going like she is when I am 85.

    The fact Kate had 3 dresses made is understandable. If someone found out about what her dress was going to be, there would be millions of knock off ones being sold within days - it is a bit like at a school prom. I think for most girls turning up in the same dress as someone else would be a nightmare - so imagine what it is like to have the same wedding dress as 50 thousand other people.
    The funny thing is, some people were planning on protesting about us paying for the security. If it wasn't for idiots like them, you wouldn't need the security lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moh View Post
    I think the main hype is the fact William is going to be the future king, so when he is King, it would be nice to say you witnessed his wedding.

    Off topic(ish);

    The public didn't pay for the wedding.. all the public paid for is the security, which they will get back easily. The royals and Middleton's paid for everything else lol.

    I don't get why people complain about paying taxes which go to the royal family and say she's rich enough, she can do it without taxes? I don't think people realise that the money the Queen gets is to do her official state business such as keeping good relationships with other countries, the money pays for all the staff in their palaces (which the government will get some of it back in taxes).

    I think we get a return on investment with the royal family. It costs 66p per person each year to fund the royal family, but they royals do a lot of charity work, they do the job of what a head of state would usually do, but for a lot less, they bring in a lot of money through tourism and they also have their own private businesses and the royals get a lot from the 6,600 million acres of land they own (which I also think they pay tax on?).

    Hardly anywhere actually closed. They simply worked sunday trading hours. As for the people who have the day off, they may do some shopping because they don't get the time usually, they may do something with their garden (so places like B&Q will profit from it) and most people on bank holidays go to the pub
    In answer to this i quoted my last post, as you missed it i think (see further down in this post).

    Quote Originally Posted by Eoin247 View Post
    Firstly as i said before, the royal family get their money from the taxpayer anyway do they not? So the taxpayer and the royal family paying are the same thing pretty much.

    My main question is not being answered, same with most people on this thread. Reasonable royal wedding, understandable. Overly extravagant royal wedding, not understandable. Do you find that paying so much for things, that could have cost a lot less, normal and morally right? Multiple hugely expensive dresses in case one gets leaked?

    Just to add to that, both economy watch and the CBI have indeed said a 1 billion pound boost to the economy due to the wedding, as somebody earlier pointed out. However , they have also said that that it cost the UK economy 5 Billion in lost production. That's not taking into account overtime/ people going on short breaks. Believe it or not your royal wedding was actualy good for Ireland. We had many people from the UK coming over to Dublin for the day and spending here. The amount of people going from the UK to Ireland actualy surpassed the amount of people going from Ireland to the wedding. Which greatly surprised me, since i myself know a good few people who travelled to London for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Milestone View Post
    People make a huge deal out of the money for security - you seem to be forgetting that the security people would still have been paid if there was no wedding - just they would probably be doing less (so actually, you could argue it made them worth the money it cost).

    William will be king one day, so obviously it is a huge event - people don't appreciate how much the queen does. She is 85 fgs, yet she does huge amounts of work - I would love to still be going like she is when I am 85.

    The fact Kate had 3 dresses made is understandable. If someone found out about what her dress was going to be, there would be millions of knock off ones being sold within days - it is a bit like at a school prom. I think for most girls turning up in the same dress as someone else would be a nightmare - so imagine what it is like to have the same wedding dress as 50 thousand other people.
    They were actualy all paid double since they were technically working on a public holiday. You think that making 3 wedding dresses (two that wont even be used) that cost such an amount of money is understandable? That amazes me, but if that is truly your opinion then that's fair enough i suppose. The prom comparison isn't a very good one as nobody attending a wedding dresses anywhere near the same as a bride. Also the fact is that now she is going to have the same wedding dress as 50,000 other people, as you say, anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moh View Post
    The funny thing is, some people were planning on protesting about us paying for the security. If it wasn't for idiots like them, you wouldn't need the security lol.
    Well that's not true in the slightest. I'm not too sure if you meant this as a joke or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eoin247 View Post
    In answer to this i quoted my last post, as you missed it i think (see further down in this post).
    But like I said, the royal family generate a lot more money than what we pay them in taxes? So it's just as if we were giving 66p per person straight to the government. The money that we give to the Queen is for her TO DO HER JOB. She doesn't just sit in the palace drinking tea you know? She still advises the prime minister, she organises national events, she does a lot of charity work and she represents England, such as meeting other head of states in other countries. She works a lot harder than most people do, yet they just complain because she lives in a palace. She still actually does A LOT of paper work, as that's what shes responsible for.

    In order for the public to pay for anything other than the security, I'm pretty such there would be a vote in parliament to allocate extra funding.

    I don't even think the royal family would even dare spending any of the public money, because if they did, there would be a lot of people trying to end the monarch - which I don't think they would risk surely?

    I don't even think the bank holiday would lose much in production. On bank holidays, the people who aren't at work will end up spending more money at the places that are still open. Even if businesses didn't bring in as much profit, they don't generally lose any money, they just don't make as much profit. Those people who do work over time, will be taxed even more. So over time pay still adds to the economy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eoin247 View Post
    Well that's not true in the slightest. I'm not too sure if you meant this as a joke or not.
    Well I didn't mean it seriously, I was kinda relating to the spending cut protests. The people who got violent actually cost the money because:
    - Anybody injured would be treated at the NHS, funded by the government - most costs
    - Anybody arrested would cost the police force in paper work and holding people in the cells
    - Anything public that got destroyed would need to be replaced by public money
    - When Charles and Camilla were attacked in their car, that car had to be repaired which comes out of the tax payers money

    So the protests pretty much cause more spending cuts

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    But like I said, the royal family generate a lot more money than what we pay them in taxes? So it's just as if we were giving 66p per person straight to the government. The money that we give to the Queen is for her TO DO HER JOB. She doesn't just sit in the palace drinking tea you know? She still advises the prime minister, she organises national events, she does a lot of charity work and she represents England, such as meeting other head of states in other countries. She works a lot harder than most people do, yet they just complain because she lives in a palace. She still actually does A LOT of paper work, as that's what shes responsible for.

    In order for the public to pay for anything other than the security, I'm pretty such there would be a vote in parliament to allocate extra funding.

    I don't even think the royal family would even dare spending any of the public money, because if they did, there would be a lot of people trying to end the monarch - which I don't think they would risk surely?
    I never disputed what work she does. I don't really know much about the work she does and thus never mentioned it. All that i was saying was you like previous posters differenciated between the royals' paying for the wedding and taxpayers. Anyway to stay on topic (everybody keeps going off point from my question for some reason), i'm going to quote yet again from my other post.

    My main question is not being answered, same with most people on this thread. Reasonable royal wedding, understandable. Overly extravagant royal wedding, not understandable. Do you find that paying so much for things, that could have cost a lot less, normal and morally right? Multiple hugely expensive dresses in case one gets leaked?
    Now you say:

    I don't even think the bank holiday would lose much in production. On bank holidays, the people who aren't at work will end up spending more money at the places that are still open. Even if businesses didn't bring in as much profit, they don't generally lose any money, they just don't make as much profit. Those people who do work over time, will be taxed even more. So over time pay still adds to the economy.
    Again i'll quote from previous posts to answer this.


    Just to add to that, both economy watch and the CBI have indeed said a 1
    billion pound boost to the economy due to the wedding, as somebody earlier
    pointed out. However , they have also said that that it cost the UK
    economy 5 Billion in lost production. That's not taking into account
    overtime/ people going on short breaks. Believe it or not your royal wedding was
    actualy good for Ireland. We had many people from the UK coming over to Dublin
    for the day and spending here. The amount of people going from the UK to Ireland
    actualy surpassed the amount of people going from Ireland to the wedding. Which
    greatly surprised me, since i myself know a good few people who travelled to
    London for it.
    They were actualy all paid double since they were technically working on a public holiday. You think that making 3 wedding dresses (two that wont even be used) that cost such an amount of money is understandable? That amazes me, but if that is truly your opinion then that's fair enough i suppose. The prom comparison isn't a very good one as nobody attending a wedding dresses anywhere near the same as a bride. Also the fact is that now she is going to have the same wedding dress as 50,000 other people, as you say, anyway.
    Bonjour, la noirceur, mon vieil ami
    Je suis venu te reparler
    Car une vision piétinante doucement
    A laissé ses graines lorsque je dormais
    Et la vision
    Qui était plantée dans mon cerveau
    Demeure toujours
    Parmi le son du silence


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