Opt in/Opt out swear filter

[Catzsy]

I've provided a positive, that everyone has glossed over because seemingly nobody can counteract it, why don't you provide me with a positive of having a filter in place that I haven't already provided a valid counter argument towards.

O and about your on-going media argument. I provided a reason why you can't make favorable comparisons;

Your reasons are that members should be treated more maturely - what is mature about swearing?

The comparisons with newspapers/mainstream TV are that 'in the real world' it is generally accepted that it is inappropriate to use foul language whether or not people do it on the street. I would say that is a pretty good precedent to use on this forum which afterall is aimed at teenagers.

[Hecktix]

I've provided a positive, that everyone has glossed over because seemingly nobody can counteract it, why don't you provide me with a positive of having a filter in place that I haven't already provided a valid counter argument towards.

O and about your on-going media argument. I provided a reason why you can't make favorable comparisons;

If you bothered to read the 5 or 6 threads that FJ pointed out earlier on there are many valid reasons for having a filter in place. Including that Habbo also filter their forums (you guys seemed to ignore me when I brought that valid point up) and the fact that we don't just use our filter for swearing, we also use it for security.

[FlyingJesus]

I've provided a positive, that everyone has glossed over because seemingly nobody can counteract it

Pretty sure half of pages 6 and 7 were replies to your argument, which you yourself afterwards denied and contradicted

[Recursion]

I still vote for the Jin filter.

[Eoin247]

Well i suppose the main reason for it is the most obvious one and the main reason pretty much all things are introduced. A large amount of people simply want it introduced. Wether you find lots of reasons for it or not.

If people get what they want they are now happy> Happy forum members= more active and more likely to stay forum members> more people stay past the "habbo age"

People that don't like the swearing cannot complain as they have an option.

Another reason would be that without an optional filter habbox feels much more like a little kiddies forum that has parental controls for everybody regardless of age. With an optional filter you will make forum members that are getting older more likely to stay. Lets face it, nobody likes the feeling that they are on something that is meant for kids when they are an adult. Like it or not, a forced filter with no options makes that feeling greater. Either consiously or subconsiously.

[FlyingJesus]

Anyone who thinks having a language filter isn't treating members as mature persons is obviously not mature enough to be treated as such anyway. Being more profane does not make one any less childish, and I challenge you to find even one older member who's quit due to not being allowed to swear

[Moh]

Wont work, as I'm sure the words are filtered out in the database and not when they're displayed.

[Eoin247]

Anyone who thinks having a language filter isn't treating members as mature persons is obviously not mature enough to be treated as such anyway. Being more profane does not make one any less childish, and I challenge you to find even one older member who's quit due to not being allowed to swear

I'm guessing the first part was directed at me considering i was the only one who posted reasons since your last post. Read that post a bit more carefully and i hope you'll understand better what i meant.

The part in bold was quite funny i thought. Sure would be kinda hard to find them since they quit and aint here...

Most people just leave without giving reasons, but i can guarantee you that the No. 1 reason that people leave is that they feel they have outgrown the forum. Like it or not, making the option to turn on/off the filter (or at least part of it) makes the forum feel less like a kids forum to these people while giving other members just as much filtered things as there are now .

In fact that was the reason habbo brought in the optional filter wasn't it? They said that they realised that they now had a group of people who are older than their original target area and so were going to act appropriately. Not long after, the optional filter came in. Habbox is a habbo fansite that now has a group of people that are also older than the original targetbase.

[FlyingJesus]

And I repeat, you do not need to swear in order to be mature - that's what the first part of my post was about, not as a personal attack on you if that's how you read it.

I really can't imagine someone thinking "I deem myself too engrossed in activities and communities better suited to the older percentile of adolescents, yet SWEARING would change that entirely and ensure my extended presence at Habbox"

[Catzsy]

Well i suppose the main reason for it is the most obvious one and the main reason pretty much all things are introduced. A large amount of people simply want it introduced. Wether you find lots of reasons for it or not.

If people get what they want they are now happy> Happy forum members= more active and more likely to stay forum members> more people stay past the "habbo age"

People that don't like the swearing cannot complain as they have an option.

Another reason would be that without an optional filter habbox feels much more like a little kiddies forum that has parental controls for everybody regardless of age. With an optional filter you will make forum members that are getting older more likely to stay. Lets face it, nobody likes the feeling that they are on something that is meant for kids when they are an adult. Like it or not, a forced filter with no options makes that feeling greater. Either consiously or subconsiously.

With respect there is absolutely nothing to support the comment in bold. I would say less than 5% of the forum have even complained and that is being generous. Just because somebody shouts long and hard with a few supporters does not mean there is really any real demand for it. Amazingly a Habbo forum actually aims itself at 'kids' and teenagers.