[DISCUSSION] Should Habbox Managers be able to win large Habbox events/competitions?

[Richie]

This is a good point, Richie. I would argue, however, that HabboxLive DJs only tend to do one or (at a push) two on-air competitions per show. The events team should be looking at doing 4-5 rounds per hour, on average; therefore there is more chance to win a prize.

There is also the fact that, if Phil or I were to win an event, there is the chance we would give it to 2nd place. Not gonna lie, there are times that I've accepted the prize because I deserved it (obviously.. I won), but this is what I've said all through the thread; the majority of Habbox Managers would turn down prizes for the benefit of Habbox off their own back and therefore there is no need to impose power upon them and ban them from entering competitions or playing events.

If Oli wishes to ban Phil and I from playing our own events (which is daft because it kinda defeats the object of interacting with the community) then so be it, but the joke is on him when he realises there's a group of management who feel detached from the community.


Well I'm not gonna reply to this, Richie, because I think it's extremely petty to suggest people should resign over something as tiny as this. The thread says [DISCUSSION] for a reason.


So be it then. They won fair and square.

If it's really that petty, stop giving out about it.

[Mathew]

If it's really that petty, stop giving out about it.

As I've said, the thread title says [DISCUSSION] for a reason. Attacking the arguer instead of the reasoning only weakens your argument, Richie.

[Richie]

As I've said, the thread title says [DISCUSSION] for a reason. Attacking the arguer instead of the reasoning only weakens your argument, Richie.

What the hell you've been doing the exact same thing, stop contradicting youself, jesus christ I need to play some habbo to release all this stress which you've given me (lol)

[Mathew]

What the hell you've been doing the exact same thing, stop contradicting youself, jesus christ I need to play some habbo to release all this stress which you've given me (lol)

At least you'd be able to play Events to release stress, eh? Same can't be said for us... !

[beth]

i think this is a silly argument, mgmt are habbo users too and at the end of the day have free reign over habbo events etc. i disagree with them generally winning huge prizes over an average user if the competition isn't random (for e.g: d.j choosing their favourite room design or something) but if its a quiz or whatever and they're not hosting, why shouldn't they win?

[Casanova]

No habbox staff should be allowed to enter competitions if they're of any senior position, so for instance "head X" or "assistant X" "senior X" "... manager".

I'm quite appauled you have NO competitions for your staff already!??!!

[Hecktix]

No habbox staff should be allowed to enter competitions if they're of any senior position, so for instance "head X" or "assistant X" "senior X" "... manager".

I'm quite appauled you have NO competitions for your staff already!??!!

Funnily enough, as much as I'd love to have competitions left right and centre, prizes don't grow on trees. Staff have a lot separated for them in terms of rewards as it is, it would only be detrimental to separate staff from normal competitions, this is why the different systems were removed in what, 08? 09? It's proven successful and not to cause any issues letting staff enter basic competitions, it's the ones with larger prizes that people seem to moan about, but as people in this thread have highlighted managers are members too.

[Grig]

Also, just to add another small point, that by getting staff and managers involved in a way it gets them more involved within the community and makes them seem less disjointed as was the case in the past. This without a doubt will make people feel part of Habbox .

[nvrspk4]

Whilst I always respect your views I think on this occasion I disagree. Why single out the managers?
I think the same could be said if I won a prize or any member of the staff. The decision was made to allow staff to enter competitions and it has to be remembered that they are also active members of Habbox as well as staff and are volunteers not employees so the fact that companies do not allow employees to enter really does not apply. Personally I feel that being able to enter the competitions provides an incentive to them as well to keep up with all the hard work they put it each and every day. Obviously how the prize is won has to be completely transparent but if anybody was 'rigging' which I would find hard to believe would ever happen, could easily still happen e.g. the member of staff could make sure a member won and share the proceeds. Most of the competitions are a game of chance and if you put the effort in then you should be entitled to some of the rewards should you be lucky enough to win.

My argument was not based around the employee perspective, it was based on the reality of perception. The perception will be that when our senior staff win, there is a bit of hard feeling, especially in cases where there could be collusion (I am not in any way suggesting that staff ever do collude, though it has happened rarely, merely what it would look like.)

For example: a find-the-DJ game it would be suspicious if a manager won.

Why single out managers and not the rest of the staff? Because there are a lot of staff, and staff are less visible figureheads than managers. The line needs to be drawn somewhere, just that the current team is drawing the line at General Management instead of Managers. There seems to be an implied agreement that perception is indeed an issue - the disagreement is just on where to draw the line - General Management are members as well.

When it comes down to it, I don't think anyone who agrees that General Management shouldn't be involved in comps disagrees with the principle, we just disagree where to draw the line - and that's fine. I personally don't care if a manager wins a competition I'm in - but I think it will have an impact. That said I don't think allowing Managers to enter competitions will destroy Habbox

However, I do think Managers should be barred from entering very subjective competitions such as poem competitions or subjective events like Costume Change. Then again, that is a difficult line to police so it may not be worth the effort.

[Mathew]

General Management are members as well.

I disagree because as Alex3213 clearly pointed out a couple of pages back, the clue is in their job title. They organise and manage the whole of Habbox, so obviously they're going to play a part in the process of the event / competition / tournament. Once you even have the knowledge of it happening, you're at an advantage and therefore they shouldn't be allowed to enter. Same with HxL, I am unaware of most things they do, so why would I be at an advantage?

However, I do think Managers should be barred from entering very subjective competitions such as poem competitions or subjective events like Costume Change. Then again, that is a difficult line to police so it may not be worth the effort.

Yet again I disagree on the poetry competition. The exact point is that it's subjective. Obviously the prize should go to the person who wrote the best poem, and whether that is chosen through votes or one person, it is the final decision and their individual talent should be rewarded.

Costume Change is the only event banned by Habbox, too.