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    I think for some films there are boundaries for reasons.


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    Personally seeing violence in films (and games) makes me less likely to be violent. This shouldn't be banned as I also stand for the fact you should be able to do what you want as long as it doesn't affect anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peteyt View Post
    This seems to be going back and forward.

    The film shouldn't be banned, but I do feel the director is trying to push the boundaries on purpose. As the article says people will get hold of it anyway's so even with a ban its not like anyone's going to see the film.

    You may hate illegal downloading but when a film is banned people often turn to it - there's no real other way sometimes.

    But no mater if the film is banned or not it doesn't hide the fact it's a stupid mindless horror flick that has no real purpose.
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    thank goodness for that! I have never seen the first one because i don't like scar films but that's sick from what i have heard you don't gain anything from watching it so why watch it. If you find it entertaining and get pleasure from you you're sick and from what i've heard the plot and filming of it what poor anyway.


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    Do be quiet.

    moderator alert Edited by Infectious (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not make pointless and rude posts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by peteyt View Post
    There's a difference between pushing the boundaries and making a ultra violent film with no other content. I'm going to watch the first one soon but I've been told it's just a violent film with bad acting, bad everything else.

    I'd like the film more if it had more substance. There's films that people find sick but don't just rely of violence, as in they actually have a story and other stuff going on.
    Some people enjoy cold, hard gore. You wonder why the SAW films are so money-massive? The vast majority of them are vapid, useless objects containing a wide array of just emotionless brutality and sickening gore and tearing men and women limb from limb and yet in 'creative' ways. Some people, my friends especially who think Avatar is the best movie of all time, love it. They hate big story and thinky brainy stuff, they call 'the story' being useless but the style being the way you enjoy it and Tarantino's films themselves have often been accused of being style over substance. They're wrong, obviously, but it doesn't take away from that fact that the vast majority of people who say that also happen to enjoy his films for the stylistic presentation. Personally, I love both style and substance and it's one of the only things Snyder's Watchmen has going for it.

    Gore is within the lifeblood of horror, whether we like it or not, sometimes it's the full on style of a film and sometimes it much more subtle or used for actual effect rather than repeating the same set piece over and over. Some people like the latter, I do when it's done rather well, perhaps with some heart added in.

    On the subject of banning this film, I could not disagree with the BBFC more. Not just their decision on this film but as an organization. Regulating free speech materials is stupid, stupid, stupid unless it's done in the right name of protecting the little ones. There's an argument in California that because video-games 'corrupt our youth' so much they should be treated like pornography and sold behind the counter like you're meant to feel dirty when asking for them. It's utter, benign nonsense and nothing should stop any adult from consuming any legal free speech (not snuff films obviously, which don't really exist) because of some 'regulation'. Who cares if it gets into the hands of the youth, it's not the filmmaker's or the rating board's fault, it's the parents who let their kids experience ultra-violence. My mum let me play GTA2 when I was four years old and now I'm some bigshot writer, violence in another world has helped me become the person I am today but it's not true for everyone. Parents should know what's right and what's wrong for their kids and blaming the filmmakers/rating board for all of their problems is avoiding the massive issue that bad parenting exists and there's an all time high of teenage pregnancy and kids raising kids.


    Quote Originally Posted by lxce View Post
    thank goodness for that! I have never seen the first one because i don't like scar films but that's sick from what i have heard you don't gain anything from watching it so why watch it. If you find it entertaining and get pleasure from you you're sick and from what i've heard the plot and filming of it what poor anyway.
    "You're sick"

    Some people are interested more in the portrayals of psychology, on how people can degrade into such morbid monsters of society. I find that interesting but I don't think I could stand the presentation. Some people also enjoy the gore of something given it's often a primal enjoyment of seeing things get taken apart, it's a part of who we are and it shouldn't be called 'sick' because we're all generally the same deep down. It's just whoever irons it out or whoever embraces it.

    It's a free world and opinions however stupid, idiotic or perceived to be 'sick' as they are should be allowed to happen. It doesn't make them sick to like things that you find sickening, the same way it doesn't make them dumb to like things you don't like for different reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -fire-girl- View Post
    I think I just vomited.

    This film is gonna be more messed up than the first... I doubt they'll appeal... they'd have to practically reshoot it all ;l
    You should read a "Serbian Film" plot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Serbian_Film#Plot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teabags View Post
    You should read a "Serbian Film" plot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Serbian_Film#Plot
    oh my dear lord that's even worse and just...

    how do filmmakers come up with plots like these?!!?!?!?!?





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    yes a serbian film is disgusting and sick but at least it actually has a message behind it unlike the human centipede which is just made to gross people out
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    "You're sick"

    Some people are interested more in the portrayals of psychology, on how people can degrade into such morbid monsters of society. I find that interesting but I don't think I could stand the presentation. Some people also enjoy the gore of something given it's often a primal enjoyment of seeing things get taken apart, it's a part of who we are and it shouldn't be called 'sick' because we're all generally the same deep down. It's just whoever irons it out or whoever embraces it.

    It's a free world and opinions however stupid, idiotic or perceived to be 'sick' as they are should be allowed to happen. It doesn't make them sick to like things that you find sickening, the same way it doesn't make them dumb to like things you don't like for different reasons.
    I'm interested in psychology but I don't see this film as a portrayal of it, like it has to be sensationalized to the point that it is interesting as a film as well. If people wanted to see people degrading into monsters read the Zimbardo prison study as it's a more valid representation while still being quite graphic.

    Also to the person who said you don't get pleasure from watching Winnie the Pooh when the -repped me i could argue that they do because yes while you said "it's a talking ******* bear" it is but it is also aimed at people who are about 2-4 who find they pleasurable and it teaches them the morals of life from a simple view. This film is aimed at adults 18+ i should say is the rating and therefore more sophisticated people and it doesn't offer anything. While you may not agree with it there is no need to send me messages like your life depended on me agreeing with the film.

    And the Serbian film i heard about that in economics couple of the guys have watched it - that seems even worse than this!


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