Can we get one thing straight?

[HotelUser]

I don't think the problem is necessarily the rule itself, not that users are outright intending to violate it, I think it's a mix between:

1. The internet has changed since the forum was created in that internet videos are a lot more viral than they used to be and because of that we're sharing them very carelessly. We don't stop and think about the fact that there might be swearing in videos where the environment we're distributing them on prohibits swearing.

2. To tie in with the latter of the above, when you post a video on the forum there is no notification reminding the poster that special precautions must be put into place prior to posting a video which contains graphic / vulgar content.

In the past we have had no way to add automatic content warnings into place when you post a video, however Myke's just suggested an idea where videos are automatically put into spoilers and warnings saying "video MAY contain swearing" are added, and another idea which when you hit the video button it prompts you asking to tick a checkbox if the video contains swearing. I'm not sure if the latter is possible but the foremost certainly is, and implementing this should make things a lot more fair for users who just want to share videos in peace and don't realize their videos contain filtered content.

[Mr-Trainor]

no but what he means is, that if the video doesn't start automatically (which it doesn't) and a warning is placed above it saying that the video contains swearing, it's then up to them to press play, unless the video has a swear word on the screen before the video starts.

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no but what he means is, that if the video doesn't start automatically (which it doesn't) and a warning is placed above it saying that the video contains swearing, it's then up to them to press play, unless the video has a swear word on the screen before the video starts.

Oh right. Tbh though I still think that in that case, spoilers should still be added. In the past I've read articles and not read them from top to bottom (might just be me ) and sort of skipped to images/subsections and then gone back to other parts after. So there is a possibility that someone will see the video before anything else, because of it's size in particular, and play that before reading the text above and below.

[Chippiewill]

In the past we have had no way to add automatic content warnings into place when you post a video, however Myke's just suggested an idea where videos are automatically put into spoilers and warnings saying "video MAY contain swearing" are added,

That won't work, people will just start ignoring the warnings, just like every other computer warning on the planet.

What really needs to happen is that moderators should not start slapping users around because they didn't notice the swearing, just discretely put it into spoilers and pm the user rather than spamming modwarn tags and giving them infractions.

[Mr-Trainor]

What really needs to happen is that moderators should not start slapping users around because they didn't notice the swearing, just discretely put it into spoilers and pm the user rather than spamming modwarn tags and giving them infractions.

The problem with that is that people may stop adding warnings to vidoes and just expect that the moderators will go round and do it for them. As for giving infractions, I'm sure you won't get an infraction for it unless you've done it before.

[Chippiewill]

The problem with that is that people may stop adding warnings to vidoes and just expect that the moderators will go round and do it for them.

Well if a moderator notices a repeat offender in the user notes... it can be dealt with. But a song and parade should not be made of it (As it is today).

[Neversoft]

I believe the spoiler is an indication that the video contains swearing. Much like the rating of "12A" indicates swearing or violence. The rule is fair. The video not auto-starting is not *really* an indication that it contains swearing. Also I have a tendency to press play on videos without reading the post so not having the spoiler there kinda encourages that.

Stop nitpicking, it hardly affects you to stick spoilers around a video. Regardless of how far between the lines you look.

You talking to me? You don't need a spoiler and a warning to tell you the video contains swearing. The warning alone will suffice. The spoiler just seems pointless. Something doesn't have to affect you to be deemed unnecessary.

[Chippiewill]

You talking to me? You don't need a spoiler and a warning to tell you the video contains swearing. The warning alone will suffice. The spoiler just seems pointless. Something doesn't have to affect you to be deemed unnecessary.

I, as well as others have stated, that it is very easy not to notice the warning if you see a picture or a video since it dominates the page. The spoiler will give the reader that extra second they need.

[Richie]

I personally think a warning is fair but a spoiler isn't necessary, if management could add a box to the video url where a user can tick the box if the video has mild content everyone would be happy.

[Mr-Trainor]

You talking to me? You don't need a spoiler and a warning to tell you the video contains swearing. The warning alone will suffice. The spoiler just seems pointless. Something doesn't have to affect you to be deemed unnecessary.

As I mentioned above, I see the spoiler as a way of ensuring the reader has read the warning before playing the video, otherwise they may just see the video and play it without reading any text.

[GommeInc]

The rules have sure declined on this forum. Back in the day any video bar porn was generally allowed as long as a sufficient warning was given. Why on earth was this changed? Kids can just go onto YouTube these days and watch videos with all manners of violence and swearing in. I really don't understand why the moderators are so set on censoring the videos posted here. You aren't protecting the youth, you're just annoying everyone. And I really don't understand why a video that contains filtered words has to be put in a spoiler. It's a video, not an image and spoiler tags aren't stopping anyone from playing it.

It is a bit unnecessary and the rules are too strictly followed lately, even though the content maybe fine

The spoiler should only be used if the title or preview image contain filtered or inappropriate content. Warning members, removing the video or adding the scary, bold, red text seem like a waste of the moderators time. As long as the member adds "May contain swearing" in bold somewhere, then it's a suitable.