Admin Rep Power

[Mr-Trainor]

I don't understand why you've been going on for ages about not having the 20 rep power then if that's what you feel? Like I said anyway I agree it isn't really needed at the end of the day though Jin was the one that set it so I guess it's upto him to agree/disagree with it being removed or not :p

Well you should say that it seems as though Martin is excluded because he's the only one that doesn't have the fixed 20 rep power, whereas the rest of the management do.

[scott]

Well you should say that it seems as though Martin is excluded because he's the only one that doesn't have the fixed 20 rep power, whereas the rest of the management do.

I understand that but that's got nothing to do with me It's how it has always been and I don't think any of the other people who haven't had admin have said anything about it really it's how Jin/sierk set it at the end of the day

[Martin]

Well if you don't need to have Admin on the forum then you wouldn't be put into that group just for the sake of it? You've been here long enough to know that they don't give Admin out to people who don't need it and as far as I can honestly see I can't see anything to do with your job that would mean you need it. The features managers need Admin to be able to do their job, you organising things for the community does not mean you need admin on the forum just to have a 20 rep power.

the point im arguing in this thread is that no admins need it. It's a "bonus feature" which if you're gonna give out should be to everyone without that level. As I said, what really is achieved from it anyway?

The way I see it, it's an admins birthday, they are able to go through their entire birthday thread and plus rep everyone within that thread (because they exempt from the rep waiting rules), with a certain amount of rep power. Aside from that, there are no bonuses from this that I can think of.

If a features manager can do this, why not someone who is the agm of the community bringing people into the site, and interacting with new members etc. People are always telling me that my role is nothing to do with the forum blablabla, but tbh the forum is the main hub of habbox, and I don't think I should be treated any different from anybody else. It's a tiny thing yes, and I sound pathetic and greedy by moaning about it, but in my opinion there is no need for this particular bonus for admins.

[Mr-Trainor]

I understand that but that's got nothing to do with me It's how it has always been and I don't think any of the other people who haven't had admin have said anything about it really it's how Jin/sierk set it at the end of the day

I may be wrong, but I'm sure all the previous Community AGMs did actually have it because I'm sure Matt or someone mentioned that the next Community AGM wouldn't have admin perms, and then it was Martin .

[scott]

the point im arguing in this thread is that no admins need it. It's a "bonus feature" which if you're gonna give out should be to everyone without that level. As I said, what really is achieved from it anyway?

The way I see it, it's an admins birthday, they are able to go through their entire birthday thread and plus rep everyone without that thread (because they exempt from the rep waiting rules), with a certain amount of rep power. Aside from that, there are no bonuses from this that I can think of.

If a features manager can do this, why not someone who is the agm of the community bringing people into the site, and interacting with new members etc. People are always telling me that my role is nothing to do with the forum blablabla, but tbh the forum is the main hub of habbox, and I don't think I should be treated any different from anybody else. It's a tiny thing yes, and I sound pathetic and greedy by moaning about it, but in my opinion there is no need for this particular bonus for admins.

What is the bonus of you having admin? If you were using the admincp you'd be doing someone elses job as there's nothing in the description of your job that means you need access to it really?

So you are saying that our features managers don't do anything to bring people to the forum or interact with new members? I've seen them replying to more welcome/goodbye threads then I have seen you to reply to so that isn't really fair to them.

It is given to everyone on that level? Everyone that needs Admin so is put into the admin group gets it? So as far as I can see everyone who needs admin has it at the moment. I actually agreed with you at the start of the thread that it isn't really a needed thing for admins to have that high a rep power but you seem to be more interested in getting into the admin group/getting the 20 rep power. Yet you are saying that it isn't needed? So if it gets removed would you still want admin or?

I may be wrong, but I'm sure all the previous Community AGMs did actually have it because I'm sure Matt or someone mentioned that the next Community AGM wouldn't have admin perms, and then it was Martin .

Roxy had it to give out awards and I'm pretty sure that was all she had it for, that is now part of the Features Managers job so it isn't really needed for the AGM Community to have it and I understand why they decided not to give it out.

[Martin]

What is the bonus of you having admin? If you were using the admincp you'd be doing someone elses job as there's nothing in the description of your job that means you need access to it really?

So you are saying that our features managers don't do anything to bring people to the forum or interact with new members? I've seen them replying to more welcome/goodbye threads then I have seen you to reply to so that isn't really fair to them.

It is given to everyone on that level? Everyone that needs Admin so is put into the admin group gets it? So as far as I can see everyone who needs admin has it at the moment. I actually agreed with you at the start of the thread that it isn't really a needed thing for admins to have that high a rep power but you seem to be more interested in getting into the admin group/getting the 20 rep power. Yet you are saying that it isn't needed? So if it gets removed would you still want admin or?



Roxy had it to give out awards and I'm pretty sure that was all she had it for, that is now part of the Features Managers job so it isn't really needed for the AGM Community to have it and I understand why they decided not to give it out.

Not once in this thread have I brought up anything to do with me having/not having admin- this thread is not about that. It's about a silly feature which is given out to the entirety of general management and admins bar one which is just a little unfair- but thats just my opinion. The forum seems to be a seperate place, and I'm sorry for doing any of my job on it.

I think most of us agree that whilst only a small thing, it's not really needed and doesn't offer any substancial benefits to anybody, when the majority of those with it would have a higher rep power anyway, and prizes can be requested like the rest of us in the relevant thread.

[Mathew]

Is there only me who thinks Martin could just do the jobs of the features manager?

1) Martin is community and therefore responsible for prizes; he'd be able to take care of rep, VIP and awards better than anyone.
2) Martin would benefit from admin on the forum for reasons stated aboved.
3) He would be equal to those around him in General Management who all have admin.
3) Management seem unwilling to give out admin permissions to Martin who has been in management postions for months, yet appear to give them to Cosmic who is new to it (no offence to you on a personal level here, Davey! )

Seems a little obscure.

Oh, and on the topic of the thread... I disagree with admins getting the 20 rep power because they all pretty much have higher and it's therefore no help to anyone. It's just pointless..

[Martin]

Is there only me who thinks Martin could just do the jobs of the features manager?

1) Martin is community and therefore responsible for prizes; he'd be able to take care of rep, VIP and awards better than anyone.
2) Martin would benefit from admin on the forum for reasons stated aboved.
3) He would be equal to those around him in General Management who all have admin.
3) Management seem unwilling to give out admin permissions to Martin who has been in management postions for months, yet appear to give them to Cosmic who is new to it (no offence to you on a personal level here, Davey! )

Seems a little obscure.

I had offered to do it, It's a small thing which doesn't take long, but in the long run I have to request everything including all prizes etc the same way as anyone else would anyway so it would have probably saved time, but I think they want to keep the structure as 2 features managers. I am pleased Davey has got it, because I know he will do a great job, and being a smod previously he also has experience with panels etc.

[Cosmic]

@matt

Really, being features manager has nothing to do with being able to manage anything or anyone in the sense of a department so I completely disagree with you there as there's no managerial experience required. It's not like I've just sprang up out of no where and I know you meant no personal offence there, but I can't help but take some.

But as I said before, I think the 20 rep power per admin thing should be removed and a 'fairer' system implemented.

[scott]

Is there only me who thinks Martin could just do the jobs of the features manager?

1) Martin is community and therefore responsible for prizes; he'd be able to take care of rep, VIP and awards better than anyone.
2) Martin would benefit from admin on the forum for reasons stated aboved.
3) He would be equal to those around him in General Management who all have admin.
3) Management seem unwilling to give out admin permissions to Martin who has been in management postions for months, yet appear to give them to Cosmic who is new to it (no offence to you on a personal level here, Davey! )

Seems a little obscure.

Oh, and on the topic of the thread... I disagree with admins getting the 20 rep power because they all pretty much have higher and it's therefore no help to anyone. It's just pointless..

It's quite a lot to add onto Martins already big workload really. I think Martins time could be put to much more use doing other things for the community than that. Also if anything surely it would be added to my jobs rather than his since it's the forum and all? I done perfectly fine covering for brandon when he was away so hmm.

p.s not saying that I want it btw, it's perfectly fine with the features managers.