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    Quote Originally Posted by Catz View Post
    Only dealt with i.e. moved back to spam as if they were left there they would have been considered as pointless/spamming. No pms and not regarding as rule breaks. That thread was already already in spam so what needed to be dealt with? How do you know what action was taken against David, anyway? I don't I see it as harsh as everybody else was allowed to 'break the rules' without impunity except for one. Harsh.
    People were allowed to break the rules, however that was eventually not allowed. And the difference is, the other threads were moved to spam as pointless, and I am sure if people continued to post pointless threads after that warning they would have been punished. You then need to look at the fact David's thread wouldn't have needed to be moved to spam, as it wasn't a 'pointless' thread. It was posting private content - which is different. If the rule is applied and a thread is breaking a rule and has not yet had anything said about it I believe it should be looked back on - as I don't think it would be fair allowing some people to get away with it and some not?

    Also, the members on this forum are not complete imbeciles. I am certain David did not have action taken against him apart from the edited post.

    ---------- Post added 20-06-2011 at 11:34 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz View Post
    Only dealt with i.e. moved back to spam as if they were left there they would have been considered as pointless/spamming. No pms and not regarded as rule breaks. The pm was a 'spoof' only sent as part of a dare. Hardly a private affair. That thread was already already in spam so what needed to be dealt with? How do you know what action was taken against David, anyway? I don't I see it as harsh as everybody else was allowed to 'break the rules' without impunity except for one. Harsh.
    Clearly they were regarded as rulebreaks, too? If a thread is moved it must have been breaking the rules - whether you warn/infract/user note the user - you have moved a thread as it is pointless - whether that is because of the game or not..

    ---------- Post added 20-06-2011 at 11:39 AM ----------

    Sorry. There was one key point I forgot to mention in this thread.

    Another difference is the 'pointless' threads were dares. Jen sending that PM was a dare. David posting the PM was not a dare, and therefore not part of the truth or dare thread.

    As stated, don't get me wrong as I have nothing against David - just if a rule is going to be applied it has to be applied for everyone


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marketing View Post
    People were allowed to break the rules, however that was eventually not allowed. And the difference is, the other threads were moved to spam as pointless, and I am sure if people continued to post pointless threads after that warning they would have been punished. You then need to look at the fact David's thread wouldn't have needed to be moved to spam, as it wasn't a 'pointless' thread. It was posting private content - which is different. If the rule is applied and a thread is breaking a rule and has not yet had anything said about it I believe it should be looked back on - as I don't think it would be fair allowing some people to get away with it and some not?

    Also, the members on this forum are not complete imbeciles. I am certain David did not have action taken against him apart from the edited post.

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    Clearly they were regarded as rulebreaks, too? If a thread is moved it must have been breaking the rules - whether you warn/infract/user note the user - you have moved a thread as it is pointless - whether that is because of the game or not..

    ---------- Post added 20-06-2011 at 11:39 AM ----------

    Sorry. There was one key point I forgot to mention in this thread.

    Another difference is the 'pointless' threads were dares. Jen sending that PM was a dare. David posting the PM was not a dare, and therefore not part of the truth or dare thread.

    As stated, don't get me wrong as I have nothing against David - just if a rule is going to be applied it has to be applied for everyone

    Sorry I really don't agree with you here. It was a joke, plain and simple and as the result of a dare in which David was included as one of the recipients of the pm. None of the others has any sanctions against them at all. The threads were not treated as rule breaks just simply moved back and were not edited as being pointless which if the rules had been applied they would have been closed and edited as being 'pointless' and a pm sent. David's was actually edited as a rule break so there may have been further action - it has nothing to do with treating members as 'imbeciles'. It amazes me that it was even picked up upon by members and seen negatively considering everything else that was going on at the time. Rule breaks are rule breaks. Where does it say 'posting private information' is any different? I agree if a rule is to be applied it should be applied to everyone but it wasn't here.

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    I will not become a part of this discussion other than mention these two things:

    1. Scott posted in the dares thread after I told him I didn't want people encouraging rulebreaks, as you can see because his reply even says "I have been asked".

    2. I might have added the edits back to my post that Matt made, and I don't mind doing that and not allowing any quotes as such at all, but now this entire thing is just being blown way out of proportion. If I may say so it was a minor and innocent error and considering management are still very human. What more are you looking to get out of discussing this when I've already sided with you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotelUser View Post
    I will not become a part of this discussion other than mention these two things:

    1. Scott posted in the dares thread after I told him I didn't want people encouraging rulebreaks, as you can see because his reply even says "I have been asked".

    2. I might have added the edits back to my post that Matt made, and I don't mind doing that and not allowing any quotes as such at all, but now this entire thing is just being blown way out of proportion. If I may say so it was a minor and innocent error and considering management are still very human. What more are you looking to get out of discussing this when I've already sided with you?
    I would like to apologise for my input in this thread. I never intended an entire thread to be in feedback on this (hence why I put it in complaints, as I didn't want an argument over it?

    Also the end of your post there seems like you are aiming this at me? I didn't make the thread, I didn't aim to make the discussion, but since the thread was started ABOUT my complaint, I feel I should reply with my input. As I have now said countless times:

    1) It is nothing personal
    2) Posting the PM was not a dare or anything - so surely it is posting private information - despite the fun side to it
    3) No matter what Rosie says, the pointless threads WERE dealt with - albeit not as strongly as normal - but still dealt with
    4) I totally understand that you are all human, and never made any intention for this to be this big
    5) It isn't like I always have arguments with you guys, since unlike most I do appreciate what you try to do etc, however on this occasion I did feel that the PM should not have been posting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz View Post
    Sorry I really don't agree with you here. It was a joke, plain and simple and as the result of a dare in which David was included as one of the recipients of the pm. None of the others has any sanctions against them at all. The threads were not treated as rule breaks just simply moved back and were not edited as being pointless which if the rules had been applied they would have been closed and edited as being 'pointless' and a pm sent. David's was actually edited as a rule break so there may have been further action - it has nothing to do with treating members as 'imbeciles'. It amazes me that it was even picked up upon by members and seen negatively considering everything else that was going on at the time. Rule breaks are rule breaks. Where does it say 'posting private information' is any different? I agree if a rule is to be applied it should be applied to everyone but it wasn't here.
    The threads were moved - and therefore seen as pointless. I treally doesn't matter if they were told off or not - they were still moved as they were pointless (which is a rule?)

    My point is David posting the PM was not a dare, and although I see it was just a laugh (and the PM was funny), it surely still needs to be noted just like all the pointless posts were?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marketing View Post
    I would like to apologise for my input in this thread. I never intended an entire thread to be in feedback on this (hence why I put it in complaints, as I didn't want an argument over it?

    Also the end of your post there seems like you are aiming this at me? I didn't make the thread, I didn't aim to make the discussion, but since the thread was started ABOUT my complaint, I feel I should reply with my input. As I have now said countless times:

    1) It is nothing personal
    2) Posting the PM was not a dare or anything - so surely it is posting private information - despite the fun side to it
    3) No matter what Rosie says, the pointless threads WERE dealt with - albeit not as strongly as normal - but still dealt with
    4) I totally understand that you are all human, and never made any intention for this to be this big
    5) It isn't like I always have arguments with you guys, since unlike most I do appreciate what you try to do etc, however on this occasion I did feel that the PM should not have been posting.



    The threads were moved - and therefore seen as pointless. I treally doesn't matter if they were told off or not - they were still moved as they were pointless (which is a rule?)

    My point is David posting the PM was not a dare, and although I see it was just a laugh (and the PM was funny), it surely still needs to be noted just like all the pointless posts were?
    Last word on this because I think David has probably had enough. None of the threads were edited as 'rule breaks' that is my point. Yes the pm was funny so why was there such a big fuss about it? The contents could have been removed without any sanction if the people who complained really felt aggrieved about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catz View Post
    Last word on this because I think David has probably had enough. None of the threads were edited as 'rule breaks' that is my point. Yes the pm was funny so why was there such a big fuss about it? The contents could have been removed without any sanction if the people who complained really felt aggrieved about it.
    There was no sanction though, so I don't see what you are saying there?

    If a thread is moved, it has been moved for a reason. That is because they were pointless - whether part of truth or dare or not!

    ---------- Post added 20-06-2011 at 12:26 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Recursion View Post
    In response to the complaints thread really

    If it's a PM, surely the person who receives the PM can also give permission for it to be made public? People should understand that when they send someone a PM the decision to make it public is with either the sender or recipient.
    A final word from me, but this original post is incorrect.

    You cannot make your private messages public! If you could, that rule wouldn't be needed since every time a PM is send, if one of the two gives permission then they would ALWAYS be allowed to be post haha


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    I'm going to close this thread for these reasons:

    1. When any member of the forum staff or not breaks a rule it's edited and privately sorted. It's not anyone else's business how this was dealt with and if you ask me you are extremely fortunate that David even decided on his own to side with you, add the edits back to the post and even apologize.


    2. I also don't feel there is nothing more about to discuss the rule or what David posted last night. It has already been sorted and dealt with and today is another day.
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