Surgeon tells off camera crew infront of PM Cameron

[kuzkasate]

I'm fairly certain they didn't do it because they thought they had some sort of superiority over everyone else. They probably forgot, something as simple as that

As Gomme said, they probably just forgot to roll their sleeves up or simply didn't feel like they needed to, it's not a question of superiority.. A quick word with each individual asking them to roll their sleeves up would suffice, no need to be a **** and seek all the attention you can get!

They couldn't have forgotten. The others did it, but if you watch the video you can see the presenter is all tidy with his suite and tie and as you can imagine, he probably wouldn't present looking like a tramp, with rolled and sleeps and no tie So I'm guessing he just decided not to.

[Grig]

Why do you have to roll up your sleeves in British hospitals :S? There aren't any silly regulations here in Hong Kong like that.

[GommeInc]

Why do you have to roll up your sleeves in British hospitals :S? There aren't any silly regulations here in Hong Kong like that.

To be honest I didn't know of such a rule. When I visited my dad in Intensive Care I saw no notices stating this and I think any contact with a patient contains some risk. Heck, if it's because clothes contain germs, do they not know that visitors hug patients? I'm sure the rest of the clothing is as bad as the sleeves, so you may as well go in naked

[Technologic]

Why do you have to roll up your sleeves in British hospitals :S? There aren't any silly regulations here in Hong Kong like that.

Ties and long sleeves are no longer allowed to be worn by staff in hospitals to reduce the spread of diseases such as MRSA, it's just to try and make things a bit safer.

[-:Undertaker:-]

British NHS hospitals would be a lot better actually cleaning the wards rather than having silly gimmicks involving sleeves and ties of visitors.

[GommeInc]

British NHS hospitals would be a lot better actually cleaning the wards rather than having silly gimmicks involving sleeves and ties of visitors.

Agreed However, I find many of the old NHS hospitals are the ones that need the attention. New ones like Queens Hospital in Romford is pretty good as far as hygiene goes. Not that I'm saying we demolish the old ones, we should probably renovate them to be easier to clean - why they have skirting boards that are made out of the same stuff as the floor that split over a few years is beyond me.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Agreed However, I find many of the old NHS hospitals are the ones that need the attention. New ones like Queens Hospital in Romford is pretty good as far as hygiene goes. Not that I'm saying we demolish the old ones, we should probably renovate them to be easier to clean - why they have skirting boards that are made out of the same stuff as the floor that split over a few years is beyond me.

Its not the buildings in my view, its the extinction of the old-fashioned matron who made sure the wards were kept clean... old hospital standards which were present in both pre-nationalised healthcare and after nationalisation (for a time) are the way to go. We, or our governments at least now think layer upon layer of managerial departments can take care of things like this, how wrong we are (again).

In a way the old hospitals are much better (Victorian design), apart from looking better they're a lot smaller and thus are more manageable compared to 1960s+ buildings which are gigantic and simply cannot be managed properly. The same goes for schools, the smaller the schools and the smaller the hospitals means usually the better the results.

[Describe]

That wasn't his problem though..

It was my opinion, hence the "i'd".

[wiffee1000]

Lol....

Edited by Infectious (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not make pointless post!

[Technologic]

Its not the buildings in my view, its the extinction of the old-fashioned matron who made sure the wards were kept clean... old hospital standards which were present in both pre-nationalised healthcare and after nationalisation (for a time) are the way to go. We, or our governments at least now think layer upon layer of managerial departments can take care of things like this, how wrong we are (again).

In a way the old hospitals are much better (Victorian design), apart from looking better they're a lot smaller and thus are more manageable compared to 1960s+ buildings which are gigantic and simply cannot be managed properly. The same goes for schools, the smaller the schools and the smaller the hospitals means usually the better the results.

Small hospitals are inefficient, it's better to have larger hospitals offering more services from one site