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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron, View Post
    It's a shame but no supprise. She was drugged up all the time, what do you expect ;/

    R.I.P Though
    "she was drugged up all the time" she wasn't drugged up ALL the time. sometimes she was clean for long periods.

    and just because you expect something to happen, it doesn't make it any less sadder.

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    Troubled singer Amy Winehouse was found dead in her London apartment on Saturday. Police has confirmed this report to the Associated Press. The cause of death has not been determined.

    "Inquiries continue into the circumstances of the death at this early stage. It is being treated as unexplained," a police spokesman said. According to Reuters, police had cordoned off the leafy street outside Amy's home in Camden, where around 20 onlookers had already
    gathered along with media photographers and camera crew.

    The Grammy-winning singer has battled with substance abuse for a long time and as recent as May, checked into a rehab facility.

    Fans as well as celebrities are shocked at the news. #amywinehouse is the No. 1 trending topic on Twitter with many celebs leaving heartfelt messages about the singer.

    Colbie Caillat: Amy Winehouse, the world will miss you.

    Demi Moore: May her troubled soul find peace

    Ricky Martin: I just found out. I feel pain. I feel anger. Rest beautiful girl rest. You are free!

    Zachary Quinto: Profoundly sad news to wake up to

    Kim Kardashian: What a true talent. I pray she's in a better place and at peace

    Kelly Osbourne: I can't even breath right now I'm crying so hard I just lost 1 of my best friends

    ---------- Post added 24-07-2011 at 02:02 AM ----------

    Oops , someone made a thread about it :L Didnt realise it, but this is more detailed so yeah

    moderator alert Edited by Catzsy (Forum Super Moderator): Thread merged as topic already posted here:
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    maybe we could turn this into a more musicy thread? what was yr favourite amy song/album something like that!

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    This is so upsetting, i loved her to death! Great thread, i loved rehab.



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    My favourite Amy Winehouse song must be Valerie

    R.I.P Amy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judas View Post
    weed isn't dangerous though, and wasn't what ruined her life, especially compared to the stuff she got hooked on, heroin + crack etc.
    I think you will find that those who have had their lives ruined by weed will tell you a different story. What is this strange desire people such as yourself have where you feel the need to defend not only the people taking these drugs in the full knowledge of the dangers of the, but you actually go on to defend the drug?

    Quote Originally Posted by Judas
    it was also confirmed she also started to take those class a drugs after she met her long term boyfriend.
    And whose fault was it that she took them? her own.

    If I offer you the chance to stick your hand in the fire and you take it, who is responsible? you are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Judas
    yes there was a choice but she was evidently so mentally screwed up due to all the pressure on her and issues in her personal life that it seemed like a good idea. it's just an awful situation, and it's not like this is the first time this has happened to someone in the spotlight.
    That is what drugs do to you my friend, Amy Winehouse was not born say, mentally backward, which is the picture you wish to portray - that occured due to her lifestyle choices and the people she chose to associate herself with.

    also don't go putting words in my mouth. i have never "apologised" for her taking drugs, i never said it was a good idea and it is my personal belief that her family and friends weren't hard enough on her trying to get her better, hence her going in and out of rehab time and time again. clearly she was so depressed that she just didn't care and the only one she listened to was her boyfriend, who effectively drugged her up.
    Her boyfriend didn't 'drug her up' - she did that herself, and from a young age as her childhood friends described. My friends from time to time smoke weed, nobody 'drugs them up' - they choose to do that themselves, it is their own (in my opinion stupid) choice that they wish to do this. Amy, from what i've seen, was a rather feisty and independent woman and was certainly not a pushover (not that excuses bad acts anyway).

    Her family did try, even in the glare of the public which they were led to do - but you cannot help somebody who does not want help and who ultimately can only help themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Judas
    the fact is that this is a tragedy and i am listening to back to black now realising what a big loss this is to the music industry. if people like you want to keep being disrespectful at a time that is horribly depressing for her family, friends and fans then you keep doing that. but if it ever happens to someone you know then i hope you remember this incident and have some understanding of how hard it is for them, there's a time and a place to discuss things like this and the DAY of her death is not it. please have some respect.
    Where have I been disrespectful? I simply take issue with the likes of yourself who apologise on behalf of people who choose to take drugs and defend drugs themselves, the likes of who seem to think that drugs are a disease you can strangely 'catch' - drug taking isn't a disease nor should we pretend it is one and maybe when we start treating it like a bad habit brought about by choice then maybe we'll avoid another death like this one thanks (again) to drugs.

    I rather like Winehouse myself, but that doesn't mean she's not responsible for her actions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Judas View Post
    come back to me when you have met an actual drug ADDICT who has an ADDICTION to drugs. it's not as easy as waking up and not taking them anymore. unfortunately she was stuck in a body where her mind had a few screws loose. she was ill. YOU are the one that is failing to understand something here.
    Absolute nonsense, I don't need to meet Jesus Christ to know he was the son of God nor do I need to meet Adolf Hitler to know he was an evil man. An addiction is simply a word for the weak minded, you become 'addicted' because you allow yourself to become 'addicted' and fail to stop yourself, instead preferring to take drugs and live the lifestyle that they lead you upon. A thief steals because he wishes to, a drug user takes drugs because they want to.

    To prove this point I ask the question, does anyone think the chances of Pete Doherty giving up drugs after one of his friends dying (as i'm sure many already have, we've all heard of the incident at that party) are there? of course not, these people want to take drugs and they know the harm they do - her mother and father warned publically, and she has now sadly faced the apparent consquences of her actions.


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    I read a load of the posts but not all.

    It's a a shame she has died, but people need to accept it was partly her own fault. We are all responsible for our own actions really.

    It's like people always go against the things and not the actual people. Weapons can kill, alcohol can kill, drugs can kill, but there always has to be a person involved.

    Now I understand people can get hooked and it isn't nice and can happen to anyone, but you have to remember in most cases it was their own fault.

    A lot of people are against drugs being illegal, but they are dangerous. The thing people do forget, is drugs aren't mass produced in a factory with lots of regulations. Drugs will be ran quick and cheap, the more made quicker the better. There strengths change. In other words you buy one its weaker than another - while as all alcohol is produced so it is the same.

    Drugs also create seedy organisations. A lot of people are taken from other countries and often kidnapped to run drug farms.


    But simply - I wish she hadn't died, but at the end of the day she chose her lifestyle. I've seen people who have been brought up in the drugs world, and it isn't nice and sometimes they manage to get out. Then you get people who just take it because they can, for "fun." They never really do consider the people forced into that lifestyle.

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    OMG RLLY GNE FROM EARTH? RIP
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    This is a brilliant quote:

    "Amy Winehouse dead from drugs? Ryan Dunn dead from drunk driving? … . **** you “too soon” hippie *******… … I wish you guys gave a **** this much every time an 18 year old Marine comes home in a coffin"

    Amen to that.

    What Amy Winehouse had was a "chronic illness" to use the correct term, just like alcoholism it all comes from the mind. I've not known any drug addicts, however I did know some alcoholics in my life and to say and it is a constant uphill battle, the saddest thing about such chronic illnesses is that all we could do is watch her dig herself in her own grave.

    To those who said she deserved her death, no she didn't just like no human being deserves it. Some comments here I find absolutely sadistic to say the least. I've just seen so many dumb arguments in this thread, people need to relax and realize that yes she did do a lot for the British music scene, but really everything is easier said that done when you can't stop getting high. True shame it is too.

    Also, people comparing death's to MJ, Oslo, this and that really need a reality check. These are two completely different things, it's quite disgusting for you and your dumb comments to start bringing in other tragedies into the picture, do not do that, keep each case isolated. Amy killed herself, no one else, she would only be the one to blame- not her fame, not her lifestyle, but she herself and there is really nothing much to it, if you think some holly figure came down and gave her some drugs out of no where, you are plain dumb- you die from drugs at your own hands.
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    I think all of you should **** arguing. Yes its a shock, any death is a shock, but is it a surprise? No.

    Saying that one life lost is a life to many, and none of us can even comment, unless we have been addicted to drugs ourselves. None of us know how hard it must be, or how hard she tried and people around her tried to get her off them. Yes it was her choice to START drugs but it wasnt her choice to get ADDICTED to them.

    And whoever compared drug addiction to pedophelia is just wrong.. And to those saying you cannot compare Amy Winehouse to MJ, yea you have a point. Difference is MJ had 50 years to showcase his voice and build a legacy, Amy Winehouse had 27 years. Thats the only difference I can come up with, both died of drugs overdose, yes one legally and one illegally so IMV it is a fair comparison to make.
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