Amy Winehouse found dead

[Shar]

Quick story and question for the people who have no sympathy for anyone who becomes ill or dies due to substance abuse:

In late 2009, a girl I know was raped. An intelligent daddy's girl, she quickly went off the tracks. She has never been the same girl since. She no longer cares about herself or has any regard for her own health and safety - she's like a whole new person. Just weeks after the attack she was drunk and tried the then legal high Mephedrone. She has since become addicted and takes the now illegal substance almost daily in order to block out the pain that is living her everyday life. She also drinks heavily and god knows what other substances she may be taking in addition. I don't know how she funds the habit as I'm not that close to her anymore. I have been told she's become a dealer but I don't know if its true. If she was to die, would you have any sympathy?

I know I would...

People don't see it like that, they don't see the bigger picture.

[Judas]

Quick story and question for the people who have no sympathy for anyone who becomes ill or dies due to substance abuse:

In late 2009, a girl I know was raped. An intelligent daddy's girl, she quickly went off the tracks. She has never been the same girl since. She no longer cares about herself or has any regard for her own health and safety - she's like a whole new person. Just weeks after the attack she was drunk and tried the then legal high Mephedrone. She has since become addicted and takes the now illegal substance almost daily in order to block out the pain that is living her everyday life. She also drinks heavily and god knows what other substances she may be taking in addition. I don't know how she funds the habit as I'm not that close to her anymore. I have been told she's become a dealer but I don't know if its true. If she was to die, would you have any sympathy?

I know I would...

that's awful. i'm really sorry and hope she gets her life back on track soon

in a similar kind of situation, a friend of mine's brother was diagnosed with depression after his best friend died in a car accident, hit by a drunk driver. he turned to drink and drugs, specifically cocaine and became addicted to it. after a two year battle with the drugs and his depression, he died of an overdose.

**** like that doesn't just happen. and after seeing what it did to him and his family, including my friend (she was obviously destroyed by that) it makes me angry when people say things like "it was her own fault" about people like amy winehouse and say it was a conscience decision that she made to do that to herself.

[HotelUser]

Your comparison was rubbish, I wouldn't say pedophiles are addicted to having sex with children, nor would i say homosexuals are addicted to having sex with people of the same sex, that isn't how people phrase sentences, you chose a rubbish comparison,and that is why you received a lot of criticism for it.

Actually facts are on my side. Have you ever researched pedophilia before? It's a mental disorder. Fact. Homosexuality is not, why even mention it :S

if that makes you feel better darling



no one suggested you were calling her a pedophile LOL are you ******ed or something

Actually you did as did many other people until I explained the comparison about five times.

[Slowpoke]

That's awful buddy, truly is! I hope he has found peace. Drugs are fascinating in the sense that they allow one to explore altered states of conciousness, but can also quite easily become evil, ruin lives and kill... But your post backs up the message I'm trying to get across: its not all so black and white

[Judas]

Actually you did as did many other people until I explained the comparison about five times.

no i didn't. i said it was a piss poor argument and a bad comparison all along. which i still stand by.

That's awful buddy, truly is! I hope he has found peace. Drugs are fascinating in the sense that they allow one to explore altered states of conciousness, but can also quite easily become evil, ruin lives and kill... But your post backs up the message I'm trying to get across: its not all so black and white

yeah.. i mean i never knew him personally but i met him a few times and he was a nice guy. but my friend was just devastated, it was a really bad time for everyone... i can't begin to imagine how amy's family must feel about it especially with it being probably the most talked about news story around the world the past few days :/

[HotelUser]

no i didn't. i said it was a piss poor argument and a bad comparison all along. which i still stand by.



yeah.. i mean i never knew him personally but i met him a few times and he was a nice guy. but my friend was just devastated, it was a really bad time for everyone... i can't begin to imagine how amy's family must feel about it especially with it being probably the most talked about news story around the world the past few days :/

Here's what you said to it initially:

yes it is. how is becoming addicted to those horrible drugs comparable to having sex with children? and i know it hasn't because if it had you would have some understanding and respect for this tragic loss.

You questioned how is becoming addicted to horrible drugs comparable to having sex with children (being a pedophile). Hence you completely didn't understand that I was simply talking about symptoms of addiction. Then when you finally read the thread and understood what I was talking about you attempted to recover by explaining that it was a silly comparison which is baffling because you STILL don't seem to understand that the rudimentary principles behind ANY sort of addiction are ALWAYS going to be THE SAME.

[Judas]

Here's what you said to it initially:

You questioned how is becoming addicted to horrible drugs comparable to having sex with children (being a pedophile). Hence you completely didn't understand that I was simply talking about symptoms of addiction. Then when you finally read the thread and understood what I was talking about you attempted to recover by explaining that it was a silly comparison which is baffling because you STILL don't seem to understand that the rudimentary principles behind ANY sort of addiction are ALWAYS going to be THE SAME.

it was a stupid and pointless comparison. i honestly can't see your point. an 'addiction' to having sex with children and being addicted to taking hard drugs are not remotely the same thing

[HotelUser]

it was a stupid and pointless comparison. i honestly can't see your point. an 'addiction' to having sex with children and being addicted to taking hard drugs are not remotely the same thing

You still don't understand what I was originally comparing. Fascinating.

[Judas]

You still don't understand what I was originally comparing. Fascinating.

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[HotelUser]

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Atleast I make sure I understand something before I pass judgement on it