God or Fact?

[bootydrop]

Touche Apolva. I suppose I am thinking of it as one God. Darn the Catholic churches brain washing me without me even going there. So used to only hearing of the "one and only one" G-O-D, the first OG himself.

[Zyzz]

lol at religion

Edited by Infectious (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not make pointless posts!

[Neil]

I straight up don't believe that there is anything more to life than science, I do not believe in the existence of any kind of god and I don't believe we exist for a reason.

I do believe people should be free to believe whatever they want but I don't want them trying to shove what they believe down my throat, I have the right to believe that nothing exists beyond science and what can be proven or speculated, I will not accept that the universe was created by some sort of being, that is just ridiculous.

If you want to consider something as a "higher power" then it is problem gravity and force.

Also somewhere among all of the posts someone says about how impossible it is that life exists just purely by chance, it is purely by chance, without the right things happening life would not exist on Earth, everything did happen by chance, something created the universe, rocks and atoms collided together to create minerals, planets and solar systems, gravity keeps order, on Earth volcanos erupting allowed for chemical reactions to take place producing water, with water life was able to begin taking place, billions of years of evolution took place resulting in life as we know it today - it's all very impossible when you assume there is only one chance but because of the size of the universe it was almost certainly going to have to happen eventually.

[FlyingJesus]

The biggest problem is that hardly anyone - be they believer or non-believer - actually knows enough about religion to really have a definitive view. If you aren't interested fair enough that's your choice, but if people are going to debate one way or the other then an actual understanding of more than "my Christian friend said..." is necessary.

Here's the heresy that'll rock the world: never in the Bible does it state that God is omnipotent. There is a line in a Psalm that translates as "almighty", but it's a song of praise so of course you're going to big Him up. Much like the good old "God knows everything" statement, it's again something that's come about due to worship rather than due to scripture. Most of the Old Testament is generally believed to have been written by Moses, who as you may know led the Jews out of Egypt. In those days people worshipped their kings and leaders as being all powerful, all knowing, all seeing, and immortal, so clearly anyone praising God wasn't about to do so in a less zealous manner than the Egyptians worshipping their god-king for fear of insulting Him.

That aside, God is not the only possibility of god. There are plenty of other religions with either their own supreme being, a pantheon of gods, or even different versions of the same (as with Roman/Greek gods or the Christian/Jewish/Muslim God), and that's still only taking into consideration man's interpretation of divinity. Saying "GOD DOESN'T EXIST BECAUSE MY DOG DIED AND THERE IS GRAVITY" is of no importance in a real theological debate.

[Apolva]

A debate over whether a "god" does or doesn't exists is a little vague. OP should indicate what they mean by "god":

For instance, a god who is responsible for the creation of the universe (multiverse?) or a totalitarian god who controls what you think/do.

[Ardemax]

I love a good healthy debate. Haven't seen one around on hxf in a while, so I don't care if the last post was over a month ago, let's get cracking!

I don't know if anyone is still interested in this thread, but if you are, feel free to reply or "debate". haha

Basically in my eyes (my OPINION) I can't see how there isn't a God. Call me narrow-minded, but I physically cannot see how there cannot be something that has created everything.

I first really started believing that this world was no accident actually in a science lesson. The amazing pictures of space and the most amazing mountains and planets around us, the most amazing galaxies, solar systems and stars. Are you honestly going to tell me that a big bang just happened out of no where, created one planet we could survive on and just created random planets of insignificance?

It boggles my mind how scientists are so adament that these things just happened. How did we happen? How did our gender happen? How did reproduction happen? How did language happen? How did emotion happen? How did communication with animals happen? How did animals happen?

If you just take a look around you I think you will soon find out why 2 billion people believe and worship God

Also I'd like anyone to answer honestly:

Have you ever wondered how we are the most sophisticated things on this planet and how we have built so many amazing things?

Was that down to evolution? Was it down to chance?

Meh, my minds made up.

I'll be happy to debate with whoever, peace!

[Showder]

I believe in God , and is religious so ...... I'm not a fact person ;P

[karter]

I believe there is a creator, who could've created that particle which started Big Bang?

[Niall!]

GOD IS FACT

WHAT NOW HUH

[Wig44.]

I love a good healthy debate. Haven't seen one around on hxf in a while, so I don't care if the last post was over a month ago, let's get cracking!

I don't know if anyone is still interested in this thread, but if you are, feel free to reply or "debate". haha

Basically in my eyes (my OPINION) I can't see how there isn't a God. Call me narrow-minded, but I physically cannot see how there cannot be something that has created everything.

I first really started believing that this world was no accident actually in a science lesson. The amazing pictures of space and the most amazing mountains and planets around us, the most amazing galaxies, solar systems and stars. Are you honestly going to tell me that a big bang just happened out of no where, created one planet we could survive on and just created random planets of insignificance?

It boggles my mind how scientists are so adament that these things just happened. How did we happen? How did our gender happen? How did reproduction happen? How did language happen? How did emotion happen? How did communication with animals happen? How did animals happen?

If you just take a look around you I think you will soon find out why 2 billion people believe and worship God

Also I'd like anyone to answer honestly:

Have you ever wondered how we are the most sophisticated things on this planet and how we have built so many amazing things?

Was that down to evolution? Was it down to chance?

Meh, my minds made up.

I'll be happy to debate with whoever, peace!

You just need more education, that's all. (This isn't supposed to be condescending).