Teen Commits Suicide Due to Bullying

[lawrawrrr]

They can move schools and if it gets to a horrid point they can get home schooled. If there are home issues then social services involved. There is always a solution.

a) that's assuming it's a school issue... and that involves moving away from friends etc. It's also difficult for some children (and adults, for that matter) to share what they're going through.

b) if it's at home, social services don't actually do much because you can't prove verbal abuse or subtle bullying....

[Metric1]

I am not by all means saying this kid deserved it BUT he did ask to be bullied. I went to public school in New York and they aren't a place you go to "stand out". If you get bullied for doing something, you stop it or it will continue and turn violent. It was like this where I went to school, I went to a NICE school.. Buffalo.. that place is no joke.

[Judas]

I am not by all means saying this kid deserved it BUT he did ask to be bullied. I went to public school in New York and they aren't a place you go to "stand out". If you get bullied for doing something, you stop it or it will continue and turn violent. It was like this where I went to school, I went to a NICE school.. Buffalo.. that place is no joke.

So you're saying that instead of eliminating bullying in schools we should all be encouraged to hide who we are and force ourselves to be somebody different so that we can fit in with people we may not actually like?

[beth]

Then how can't you understand there are different cases and levels of bullying, some far more severe than others? And good one on ignoring my previous point that some are emotionally weaker than other people



I'd think that anyone who self harms or tries to kill themselves are mentally unstable... And I wouldn't say that this case was a "cry for help gone wrong" as he hung himself and clearly intended to die.

But I do agree that cutting yourself etc has become glamorized etc and it is absolutely ridiculous and disgusting and needs to stop.

the bolded parts i disagree with. i know so many people who have cut themselves in the past because they think it's a way of getting attention or at one point of my life, fitting in with a clique (like 2004 when it was cool to listen to my chemical romance and have a messy history of self-harm). some people that self-harm have no intention of ever killing themselves.

at the second part, you will never know for sure. the message about gaga on his twitter is very cry for help basically saying "i'm going to kill myself". there was no note, which is usually a tell-tale sign that someone WANTED to finish their life as such.


ALSO; no-one should ever say someone "asked" to be bullied, but some people do encourage bullying by the way they react. i would definitely say if you can't handle the recognition that being different gains, then don't go there.

[dbgtz]

Then how can't you understand there are different cases and levels of bullying, some far more severe than others? And good one on ignoring my previous point that some are emotionally weaker than other people

I can understand different levels of bullying. I watch the world and I see bullying happen and I see the weak and the strong. I have seen someone who is emotionally weak put through all of his bullying, I mean he never really had friends but he pushed through the days. Emotionally weak does not correspond with suicide in my book and, to be honest, if they have the ability to hide their emotions does that not show strength rather then weakness?

a) that's assuming it's a school issue... and that involves moving away from friends etc. It's also difficult for some children (and adults, for that matter) to share what they're going through.

b) if it's at home, social services don't actually do much because you can't prove verbal abuse or subtle bullying....

Fair enough. However in my book, there is a solution to everything but I can't think of much at this time as I'm pretty tired.

[Judas]

the bolded parts i disagree with. i know so many people who have cut themselves in the past because they think it's a way of getting attention or at one point of my life, fitting in with a clique (like 2004 when it was cool to listen to my chemical romance and have a messy history of self-harm). some people that self-harm have no intention of ever killing themselves.

at the second part, you will never know for sure. the message about gaga on his twitter is very cry for help basically saying "i'm going to kill myself". there was no note, which is usually a tell-tale sign that someone WANTED to finish their life as such.


ALSO; no-one should ever say someone "asked" to be bullied, but some people do encourage bullying by the way they react. i would definitely say if you can't handle the recognition that being different gains, then don't go there.

Well I'd consider people like that crazy but perhaps not mental, so what you said is true I suppose but meh. It's difficult.

So you think that he went to the bottom of his garden and hung himself, and may not have wanted to die? I'm fairly sure he did.

[Grig]

nee nor nee nor fry what are you on?!

Anyway, I think people forget that the mentality of many school systems is prejudice to "fitting in" and you get judged in school. It's different when you go onto Uni, but in school it's like a gang they accept you or they don't. I've seen it happen first hand on numerous occasions.

P.S: This is off-topic but Lady GaGa is becoming over-rated, taking things to the extremes and doing less than spreading the message of being yourself. If wearing a paper bag over your head is being yourself, then okay go for it. Sorry to say...

[Sharon]

right i'm going to be brave and post what i actually think

harry i love you and everything but i'm just gonna put it out there that i think that you partly care about this so much because it's related to gaga.

[Judas]

I can understand different levels of bullying. I watch the world and I see bullying happen and I see the weak and the strong. I have seen someone who is emotionally weak put through all of his bullying, I mean he never really had friends but he pushed through the days. Emotionally weak does not correspond with suicide in my book and, to be honest, if they have the ability to hide their emotions does that not show strength rather then weakness?

Well then you obviously can't understand the different levels that well if you can't understand that this one boy you have used as an example isn't the weakest person on the planet. Open your mind a little.

right i'm going to be brave and post what i actually think

harry i love you and everything but i'm just gonna put it out there that i think that you partly care about this so much because it's related to gaga.

I've only heard about it because it was related to Gaga, true, but also because my 12 year old sister has recently been going through phases of self-harming and stuff so yeah... Even if that was the case, why is that a bad thing that a public figure had made me want to speak out against bullies?

[Grig]

Well then you obviously can't understand the different levels that well if you can't understand that this one boy you have used as an example isn't the weakest person on the planet. Open your mind a little.



I've only heard about it because it was related to Gaga, true, but also because my 12 year old sister has recently been going through phases of self-harming and stuff so yeah... Even if that was the case, why is that a bad thing that a public figure had made me want to speak out against bullies?

I disagree, it's all about the psychological standpoint here, people are different. Some are strong, others are weaker and perceptive and vulnerable to it. Some deal with it in the form of counseling, some feel there is no point in living and have suicide all people are different and I think that it quite a rounded-winded way was what dgbtz was trying to say. Plus the extras on the fact that the emotionally weak do hide it and then it builds up to suicide.