Is Circumcision Right or Wrong?

[beth]

i don't think it's right or wrong as long yr not forced into any procedure yr not comfortable with. not amazingly comfortable with the tradition of very young boys being circumcised because i believe it should be YR choice, not yr parents or whoever is making that decision for you, it's yr body. though yr parents have given birth to you and provided you with things etc, they have no ownership or right to what YOU do with YR body.

i've only ever come across one male in my life with a circumcision, and his had gone wrong and he was so insecure about it. that was his parents choice to do that to him, and now for the rest of his life he will live with that insecurity. i have no preference over either. i think they look a bit funny circumcised, but it would never stop me hahahaha.

a lot of people in this thread haven't picked up on female circumcision which is a massive cause of distress to many tribal females in third world africa. there's a lot of interesting monologues and harrowing information on it in the "vagina monologues". really interesting subject, probably more debatable than male circumcision really.

[Oleh]

Well, if you have a problem such as Phimosis then circumcision should be considered a last resort option, but if you want it "to look good" or "for cleanliness" then it shouldn't be a plausible option. It is a myth that it's cleaner with circumcision, and a myth only, if you have to force-ably remove the foreskin to make it cleaner, why is it there in the first place?

[GommeInc]

Well, if you have a problem such as Phimosis then circumcision should be considered a last resort option, but if you want it "to look good" or "for cleanliness" then it shouldn't be a plausible option. It is a myth that it's cleaner with circumcision, and a myth only, if you have to force-ably remove the foreskin to make it cleaner, why is it there in the first place?

Lazy narcissitic ninnies is what it is Metric summed it up as blunt and to the point as possible. It takes seconds to pull it back and give it a scrub. People who do it for vanity purposes really confuse me :/ Obviously if it's medical then it's best to get rid of it (even though I'm sure I read somewhere you can get it stretched to not be so tight).

But I guess if people want to mutilate their bodies, then it's their decision

[The Don]

Lazy narcissitic ninnies is what it is Metric summed it up as blunt and to the point as possible. It takes seconds to pull it back and give it a scrub. People who do it for vanity purposes really confuse me :/ Obviously if it's medical then it's best to get rid of it (even though I'm sure I read somewhere you can get it stretched to not be so tight).

But I guess if people want to mutilate their bodies, then it's their decision

There are other conditions which aren't cured by simply stretching, so it's a bit naive of you to make that last statement.

[GommeInc]

There are other conditions which aren't cured by simply stretching, so it's a bit naive of you to make that last statement.

I never stated all conditions can be cured by stretching And the last comment about mutilating yourself for the sake of hygiene is true, there has to be more reasons to be circumcised than being too lazy to clean your penis - even though a cut penis doesn't make it immune from grime and dirt.

[Tylervo]

Thank you for your responses everyone. This is generating an interesting discussion. Please do continue. I'm intrigued.

It's your body therefore you should be entitled to do what you want with it. If you want to be circumcised, why should anybody stop you? It's similar to getting a tattoo - one could argue there are harmful effects of that too.

We're talking about infant circumcision. Of course, if you're an adult and want to amputate a healthy body part for personal reasons, then by all means. Your comparison between getting a tattoo and circumcising is poor. Circumcision permanently removes a body part, while getting a tattoo does not permanently alter your body.

Very interesting topic haha.

Religions (Islam and Judaism) will always use the practice because it's what they believe, and stuff.

As for being healthy and disease catch-a-bility, I don't think there's much difference between having a foreskin and not. Remember folks: a clean penis is a happy penis.

Appeal to popularity fallacy. A clean penis does not necessarily mean that you will be happy. Our culture has adopted the attitude that clean means healthy, but provides no research to support that attitude.

Lol? It's healthier without the foreskin. You're not as prone to as many diseases and infections.
It's done out of tradition and for religious purposes tbh.

Indeed. It's all cultural brainwashing. Our culture changes who we are and determines our attitudes. Circumcision was originally promoted by Kellog to repress autoeroticism. Unfortunately, his idea did not work so well. So why did circumcision continue? Because our culture propels this practice. Our culture refuses to admit that circumcision was ultimately invented to reduce sexual function and continues to support circumcision simply because, "It's the way things are. Boys are cut here.". Circumcision is not a medical practice. It's mutilation that is powered by delusional reasons and poor motives.

Honestly, do what you want. Sure at birth, when you have no opinion and your parents decide it's a bit like herpa derpa. But I like the look of circumcised much more then uncircumcised, so much so that I can't stand to look at the latter.

Also; I'm not too sure about the healthier thing... wasn't that a disproven myth of the 90s?

Yet another error in reasoning. The fact that you think it looks better does not justify circumcision. It is still wrong.

Yes, it's a myth. See above.

Very interesting topic haha.

Religions (Islam and Judaism) will always use the practice because it's what they believe, and stuff.

As for being healthy and disease catch-a-bility, I don't think there's much difference between having a foreskin and not. Remember folks: a clean penis is a happy penis.

Appeal to popularity fallacy. A clean penis does not necessarily mean that you will be happy. Our culture has adopted the attitude that clean means healthy, but provides no research to support that attitude.

Lol? It's healthier without the foreskin. You're not as prone to as many diseases and infections.
It's done out of tradition and for religious purposes tbh.

Indeed. It's all cultural brainwashing. Our culture changes who we are and determines our attitudes. Circumcision was originally promoted by Kellog to repress autoeroticism. Unfortunately, his idea did not work so well. So why did circumcision continue? Because our culture propels this practice. Our culture refuses to admit that circumcision was ultimately invented to reduce sexual function and continues simply because, "It's the way things are". Circumcision is not a medical practice. It's mutilation that is powered by delusional reasons and poor motives.

Honestly, do what you want. Sure at birth, when you have no opinion and your parents decide it's a bit like herpa derpa. But I like the look of circumcised much more then uncircumcised, so much so that I can't stand to look at the latter.

Also; I'm not too sure about the healthier thing... wasn't that a disproven myth of the 90s?

Yet another error in reasoning. The fact that you think it looks better does not justify circumcision. It is still wrong.

Yes, it's a myth. See above.

[Ardemax]

Appeal to popularity fallacy. A clean penis does not necessarily mean that you will be happy. Our culture has adopted the attitude that clean means healthy, but provides no research to support that attitude.

Chill out! It's called "sarcasm".

[e5]

People need circumcision for different reasons. If they choose to then cool.

[JoeyK.]

Alright, this is a pretty personal topic; many of these replies contain very sensitive data. My disclaimer - Stop reading now if you don't want to read anything about this topic.

I do not think that this is practice that should be done at birth, or shortly after. Personally, I feel this should be a choice for each individual. I wish I had had the choice; I would not necessarily have not done it, I just would prefer the option instead of having it done at an age where I could not protest.

In my opinion, no changes should be made to a human body before the person in question becomes an adult and can decide for themselves.

[:Gero]

It seems to be a yearly 'fashion' as such, where it is sometimes considered more likely to snip, then other years its not.
I agree that religion does control most of the decisions.

As for deciding when you're a respectable age, eeep. I know people that got their circumcision at the age of 14-20, That is a pain I would not like to remember. I remember them walking around like penguins and wearing cups for like 2+ weeks.