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[AgnesIO]

I never said anything about "the bank of mummy and daddy" I said you can get a student line of credit, which comes from the bank, to pay for whatever your student loan won't cover.

Never heard of a 'student line of credit' lol.

I was referring to my family about the bank of mummy and daddy thing - pointing out that although my parents can pay for it, why should they?

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Er are you sure that isn't just Canada or something?

[Ajthedragon]

Oh I know, thanks for pointing it out

Hate to say it, but the views of the three leading parties are all so similar there is virtually no differentiation of the three parties. When the Conservatives privatise the BBC and Labour disagree I will talk.

I was talking about conservatism, not Conservatism.

And that won't happen, they don't have the balls.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I was pointing out that the BBC does more than ******* television and radio, so you need to do a bit of research.

Also, brilliant idea. Lets privatise healthcare. Didn't realise you could afford the huge hospital bills to be honest.

I know the BBC does lots of things, just as Sky and other channels do with Sports brands and so forth. This however is not a debate over what the BBC does or wishes to do, this is a debate over whether its right to force people who may not want to buy a certain product, to buy it via force of taxation. That is wrong and any free society should utterly reject it.

As for healthcare that works, please see Singapore/the old British model/the old American model.

[Metric1]

In Canada they're very common.. your parents have to be pretty poor for you to qualify for a student loan. I know of people who have 1 parent who work a regular job and they don't qualify. Your parents are expected to pay over here.

[GommeInc]

In Canada they're very common.. your parents have to be pretty poor for you to qualify for a student loan. I know of people who have 1 parent who work a regular job and they don't qualify. Your parents are expected to pay over here.

I've heard this before from American family friends who have discussed the British educational system. Quite a few of my friends have gotten jobs to pay for University or as an extra income on top of a student loan. Unfortunately there's not that many jobs available or they cannot find the time tog et jobs even at part-time. Then you get some who moan constantly and expect to be spoon fed. Parents could pay but obviously we're discussing different economical factors and ways of living.

[AgnesIO]

In Canada they're very common.. your parents have to be pretty poor for you to qualify for a student loan. I know of people who have 1 parent who work a regular job and they don't qualify. Your parents are expected to pay over here.

Over here, that isn't how it works. You have to remember, in the UK literally no families have had college funds (like a lot do in the US)?, as at £9k for three years it was manageable, now that has trippled no one has 27k just lying around - people live to their incomes, so to suddenl?y have to pay out 27k without expecting it is a big deal.

[tdi]

Do you go to uni?

You don't seem to understand how far student loan gets.

I don't go to uni. I was more implying that for the cost of a television licence it's merely a drop in the ocean. Many people I know with student loans put it towards personal items as much as educational ones. I'm not saying 'scrap student finance' because that's unfair. As it was mentioned the US commonly has 'college funds' whereas we do not. I believe that student finance should be kept, but should be monitored so people aren't buying televisions and cars out of it.

I was more so amused at the fact that OP was asking if he should pay for it rather than should he get one or not.

[AgnesIO]

I don't go to uni. I was more implying that for the cost of a television licence it's merely a drop in the ocean. Many people I know with student loans put it towards personal items as much as educational ones. I'm not saying 'scrap student finance' because that's unfair. As it was mentioned the US commonly has 'college funds' whereas we do not. I believe that student finance should be kept, but should be monitored so people aren't buying televisions and cars out of it.

I was more so amused at the fact that OP was asking if he should pay for it rather than should he get one or not.

I was the OP..

Well if I pay for it I get one, if I don't pay for it I don't get one?

It is the same ******* thing? :S

[Recursion]

I know the BBC does lots of things, just as Sky and other channels do with Sports brands and so forth. This however is not a debate over what the BBC does or wishes to do, this is a debate over whether its right to force people who may not want to buy a certain product, to buy it via force of taxation. That is wrong and any free society should utterly reject it.

As for healthcare that works, please see Singapore/the old British model/the old American model.

Yet again, the BBC does a lot of things besides their main media organisation. They do all sorts for schools for example, which I can tell you now, SKY don't.

There are a lot of good/bad taxes depending on people's views, like why on earth we pay Value Added Tax on a fuel tax, for example. If you don't want to pay a tax, don't, but the law will come down on you eventually, if you don't like it that much you could always emigrate

[-:Undertaker:-]

Yet again, the BBC does a lot of things besides their main media organisation. They do all sorts for schools for example, which I can tell you now, SKY don't.

Many companies do many things, B&Q were involved in my primary school for example.

There are a lot of good/bad taxes depending on people's views, like why on earth we pay Value Added Tax on a fuel tax, for example. If you don't want to pay a tax, don't, but the law will come down on you eventually, if you don't like it that much you could always emigrate

Well as with many other things, the reason we have Value Added Tax is for the simple reason that the European Union requires that we do so. However, in terms of taxes - look, i'm not an anarchist. I realise that we need taxes for certain things and we do need a government. I am simply questioning and arguing against a television company having the rights to acquire public money via force. You like the BBC, I don't - you have as much right to demand pay for BBC services as I do in deciding what colour your bedroom is.

Individuals should have the right to decide what television services they wish to have - thats not an unreasonable request.