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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathew View Post
    but it's never really been such an issue in the past.
    You just stated it was the issue and it seems to me that if you have thirteen trialists the standard of events will be pathetic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathew View Post
    By the time one batch has got through, it's time for another lot anyway.
    Switch to continual applications and accept only the better applications for trials. Batches is just going to show a distinct pattern of "Ish quality -> bad quality -> Ish quality -> Bad Quality" of events.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippiewill View Post
    You just stated it was the issue and it seems to me that if you have thirteen trialists the standard of events will be pathetic.


    Switch to continual applications and accept only the better applications for trials. Batches is just going to show a distinct pattern of "Ish quality -> bad quality -> Ish quality -> Bad Quality" of events.
    I think it's unreasonable to suggest that they are "bad" and "ish" quality based on just a few people. Trials are there to see how people perform and we will make the decision after two weeks over whether we'd like them to continue or not. There is no correlation at all between the amount of trialists and the quality of events, so I'm not sure how you can make such an assumption. We had a batch of 10 trialists a couple of months ago and they were simply the best group we've ever had - all of them knew how to use the forum, they were polite, enthusiastic and willing to learn. It all depends on who you get and how experienced they are - not the amount you bring on at once.

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    The reasons why Habbox staff are attending events in the first place because there has never been a ruling for them to not attend these events and obviously if there is no rule then everyone would clearly just go to them for taking part, having fun and hopefully winning prizes.

    It does seem this problem is increasing that the HxHD gets cleared out when the habbox events are taking place and then that makes the desk look dead and doesn't really help the HxHD department at all. Then the other issue with this is that the Habbox events are then filled up with members of staff and not non-members of staff or new members who are new to Habbox or maybe they haven't heard of Habbox until they actually came into the room.


    The Takeshis Castle does sort of solve that problem as Mathew has previously stated in this post that a lot of the people on the rounds aren't even staff at Habbox. If some sort of ruling needs to be put in place so that Habbox Staff don't just rush off to events and take part in them and stay in other Habbox rooms such as the HxHD then we will have to come up with a way that does it right and put it into action. I'm not a fan of the idea as I don't want to block them from going to stuff Habbox hosted fully, even if they do work for us.

    Maybe some sort of way that if there is events on and they are in the HxHD or do work in that department then they don't just go on and rush to them straight away. A couple of staff members should at least stay in the desk and keep that active with people in and if people see people in the room then they will come in. But the events in the first place are there for everyone, regardless if you are new - members of Habbox Staff or long term forum members. It's a bit of a tough one!

    In terms of staff members being away for three weeks and still being on the forum and Habbo, well that is a no and they should be contacted by either the department manager(s) or AGM (Staff). I think this needs to be reinforced more and a reminder to everyone about being classed as away.
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    HxSS is in my opinion one of the best events that Habbox does throughout the year that generally tends to bring people in. In my opinion, this is because of the atmosphere. The banter, the team spirit, the friendliness that people tend to show more of when they're desperate for new team members etc. You'll get none of those things if staff are there in events to "make up the numbers" then told to leave. I'd like to see EOs trying to enforce that! How is that promoting a good friendly atmosphere?

    Habbox Staff taking up the majority of the members on the forum, the majority of the people in the help desk, the majority of the people in the events is completely natural of Habbo fansites in my experience. They generally invest more time into it, have more friends as a result and the cycle continues. That's not saying that non-staff don't do those things, the ones who have stuck around for a long time have done the same.

    No department's perfect and I have also noticed how HxHD tends to be empty at peak times and we will certainly look into that but force, in my opinion, is not the answer and while in the short term would probably work does not provide any long-term benefits.

    Finally, it's a shame to hear you've had a bad experience at a Habbox Event and I'm confident Events Management will get to the bottom of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inseriousity. View Post
    HxSS is in my opinion one of the best events that Habbox does throughout the year that generally tends to bring people in. In my opinion, this is because of the atmosphere. The banter, the team spirit, the friendliness that people tend to show more of when they're desperate for new team members etc. You'll get none of those things if staff are there in events to "make up the numbers" then told to leave. I'd like to see EOs trying to enforce that! How is that promoting a good friendly atmosphere?

    Habbox Staff taking up the majority of the members on the forum, the majority of the people in the help desk, the majority of the people in the events is completely natural of Habbo fansites in my experience. They generally invest more time into it, have more friends as a result and the cycle continues. That's not saying that non-staff don't do those things, the ones who have stuck around for a long time have done the same.

    No department's perfect and I have also noticed how HxHD tends to be empty at peak times and we will certainly look into that but force, in my opinion, is not the answer and while in the short term would probably work does not provide any long-term benefits.

    Finally, it's a shame to hear you've had a bad experience at a Habbox Event and I'm confident Events Management will get to the bottom of it.
    I completly agree. If you stop the majority of event users going to events, events are left with a hard job.
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    I don't think its a good idea to stop staff from going to events either. It will just discourage people from wanting to sign up to hxhd altogether.People just need to pull their weight a bit more and come down harder on those who aren't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirst View Post
    I don't think its a good idea to stop staff from going to events either. It will just discourage people from wanting to sign up to hxhd altogether.People just need to pull their weight a bit more and come down harder on those who aren't.
    Then who are these events benefitting? One problem that seems to be consistently cropping up is the issue that there is a distinct lack of new members joining Habbox. You do not need a rule telling staff not to attend because it's going to be hard to police, but you can suggest to staff that these events are there to benefit the Habbo Community, the community Habbox is there to serve. I would hope staff would be polite and courteous, by not attending, because by attending they're making Habbox appear like an exclusive club when it isn't and shouldn't be perceived as so. It is quite rude if there are a lot of staff turning out at the events and they should be asked politely to let those who are new to the Habbo and Habbox experience to have their turn.

    If staff want to turn up to events, make special staff events. If not, merge HxHD and the Events departments, they seem to go part in parcel with each other

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    I think it's just common sense. I wanted to go to the event earlier but 3 of the staff behind the desk did so I was the only one there so I stayed. There shouldn't be anything officially enforced like "you can only attend two a day if you're staff" because that's just silly. People just need to see if the help desk could do with another person and if so they're going to have to miss the event. If they can't do that then they should not be staff.

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    I don't get what the problem is, if staff are going to other staffs events surely the focus should be on pulling people into events, and bringing new people to the site instead of stopping staff going to events. Why waste time with moderating staff attending events and instead put more energy in promoting habbox to the public

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolt660 View Post
    when they are in there the overall moderation and help given in the room is normally very good
    Absolutely, I'm sure they're great when they're actually in there and working, it's just getting them to actually do so in the first place

    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    Why are Habbox Staff attending such events in the first place? Surely you want to appeal to new people? Have them enter at the beginning to raise the popularity and tell them to go back to their departments. If they want to attend events make Habbox Staff ones - think of it as team building or meet and greets.
    Whilst I don't think staff should actively be discouraged from attending events this is one of the issues I have with the way things currently go. The events are mostly attended by other staff members and then it's advertised that we have amazing turnouts etc when really it's not bringing in anyone new at all and so the only success is that we've successfully played a staff game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Publicised View Post
    there might be more incentive for staff to stay in hxhd if it was pushed more and more exciting. it's been dead for weeks, why i resigned really. it's boring to be in and work in at the moment.
    It's boring to be there because everyone's out at the events

    Quote Originally Posted by dogboy123 View Post
    I don't get what the problem is, if staff are going to other staffs events surely the focus should be on pulling people into events, and bringing new people to the site instead of stopping staff going to events. Why waste time with moderating staff attending events and instead put more energy in promoting habbox to the public
    Dunno why you've said you don't get what the problem is when you've stated it right there lol, the problem is that if nearly everyone at an event is already a member/staff of Hx (which has always been the case in events I've been to) then there are no new people or general public being introduced to us as a community.


    Also when there are 22 members of HxHD staff (none of whom are trialists) there should NEVER be a day when the place is empty at 7pm.
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