'Second hand smoke' myth

[GeorginaxD]

Because homosexuality is the perfect example of something that isn't viewed as negative by the younger generations (HxF) but is by the older generations, so i'm testing how this generation feels (along with homosexuals themselves on this forum) feel when I suggest that aspects of homosexuality ought to be banned based on how people feel about them rather than the rights of a free society coming first.

I don't even like smoking just as I don't like gay prides, but i'll defend both of them because its wrong to tell others how to live their lives.

So you’re admitting you’re saying homophobic things deliberately to be controversial?

I came into this thread naive to your real intentions and now shall leave knowing that this thread was made purposely for you to argue. I could continue this and say some things you wouldn’t like, but this isn’t the time or place. I suggest you do some research next time before making a thread based on one video, then you might make a thread with a real valid point.

[Technologic]

Could you answer the question.

No because drinking is fun

[The Don]

Then thats up to the pub owner who will decide based on what is good for his business which he owns.

Apparently it’s not up to the pub owner, at least, according to the law it isn’t

You brought up health, you truly do not care about health (as the video states, the anti-smoking lobby will often bang on about health in the patronising manner to pretend its good vs evil) as you aren't willing to protect people from themselves in terms of alcohol consumption etc.

You obviously did not read my post:
“No because again, you drinking vodka next to me will not physically affect me, I would have to choose to drink alcohol as well to be affected which is down to my own free will, whereas when people smoke, free will is ignored as it removes choice regarding whether or not they are effected by the smoke, unless they walk out of the building, which is much more inconvenient considering there are more non-smokers than smokers and it's much more convenient for everyone if the smoker goes outside to a designated smoking zone.”

Could you answer the question.

You still haven’t answered whether or not you touch yourself?

[-:Undertaker:-]

So you’re admitting you’re saying homophobic things deliberately to be controversial?

I haven't actually said anything 'homophobic' but I have listed arguments against aspects of homosexuality/homosexuality itself, yes. Why? because I love making authoritarian hypocrites squirm and recieve the other end of the stick for a change.

I came into this thread naive to your real intentions and now shall leave knowing that this thread was made purposely for you to argue. I could continue this and say some things you wouldn’t like, but this isn’t the time or place. I suggest you do some research next time before making a thread based on one video, then you might make a thread with a real valid point.

Of course I made this thread to debate, debate is far better than talk because it means you have to think.

No because drinking is fun

Sums up your case.

Apparently it’s not up to the pub owner, at least, according to the law it isn’t

We're not talking about the law, we're talking about how a free society works.

You obviously did not read my post:
“No because again, you drinking vodka next to me will not physically affect me, I would have to choose to drink alcohol as well to be affected which is down to my own free will, whereas when people smoke, free will is ignored as it removes choice regarding whether or not they are effected by the smoke, unless they walk out of the building, which is much more inconvenient considering there are more non-smokers than smokers and it's much more convenient for everyone if the smoker goes outside to a designated smoking zone.”

I have said, and did say that a free society is not ordered around you and non-smokers.

You still haven’t answered whether or not you touch yourself?

That was directed at Technologic and not you, i'm simply making holes in this 'disgusting habit' argument I keep seeing put forward. I'm not proposing we ban any 'dirty habits' because for all I care you can do whatever you want and how you want provided you stick to basic laws. I'm simply putting counter arguments on things which are considered dirty habits by a large section of our society which you most likely do yet don't think should be banned, for the reason that you yourself do them.

And thats wrong, because you don't own society nor have any right to order it.

[sorrydude$]

Not watching the video, and stopped reading your post on your first line.
Second hand smoking is just as bad, OR EVEN WORSE than first hand. So it should be banned altogether as an illegal drug. No questions asked, to be honest. This is a fact.

[GeorginaxD]

I haven't actually said anything 'homophobic' but I have listed arguments against aspects of homosexuality/homosexuality itself, yes. Why? because I love making authoritarian hypocrites squirm and recieve the other end of the stick for a change.

You said gay pride made you feel physically sick and have shown a big dislike for gay people. I presume this is the reason.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Not watching the video, and stopped reading your post on your first line.
Second hand smoking is just as bad, OR EVEN WORSE than first hand. So it should be banned altogether as an illegal drug. No questions asked, to be honest. This is a fact.

How about alcohol and fatty foods then?

You said gay pride made you feel physically sick and have shown a big dislike for gay people. I presume this is the reason.

I find often hairy men in tiny trunks dancing around in the street slightly repulsive, yes.

I don't dislike gay people, indeed I don't hate myself at all.

[Technologic]

I love how into internet debates you get, it's fun.


But yeah, smoking still sucks

[-:Undertaker:-]

I love how into internet debates you get, it's fun.

But yeah, smoking still sucks

Well its only like you with the student tuition fee's so hey.

Pot kettle black as they say.

[GeorginaxD]

I find often hairy men in tiny trunks dancing around in the street slightly repulsive, yes.

I don't dislike gay people at all, indeed I don't hate myself at all.

Me too, but to assume the majority of people who celebrate gay pride are "hairy men in tiny trunks dancing around in the street" is a huge insult and completely unjustified.