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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordy View Post
    Why's Anonymous constantly weigh in like some sort of geek-police paramilitary? They seem to concern themselves with everything and although all computers nerds sit at home thinking they're heroes they're far from it. They temporarily bring down a website because they dislike it by overloading it with a botnet. It's neither skilful, interesting or useful.
    it's better than nothing imo. i do agree with the bolded though, but hey at least they're keeping the companies IT department in business

    what i REALLY REALLY hate (dunno if it's been mentioned, hey it probably has though), is the fact that the entertainment industry and co. assume that by taking down these sites, individuals will start buying their **** instead of illegally downloading. nope. others sites will pop up, and people will always find alternatives to actually legally acquiring things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirrty View Post
    it's better than nothing imo. i do agree with the bolded though, but hey at least they're keeping the companies IT department in business

    what i REALLY REALLY hate (dunno if it's been mentioned, hey it probably has though), is the fact that the entertainment industry and co. assume that by taking down these sites, individuals will start buying their **** instead of illegally downloading. nope. others sites will pop up, and people will always find alternatives to actually legally acquiring things.
    Indeed it's just a bunch of nerds with nothing better to do who crave attention from what I can gather.

    I have to agree with your second paragraph too, they talk about Megaupload causing a £300m loss to the entertainment industry? Not at all, that's assuming every single file on Megaupload would have been paid for if it wasn't illegally downloaded. £300m worth of music, films etc may well have been downloaded but chances are they had no intention of paying for it anyway so it isn't a loss to them at all. The entertainment industry has been shown to make larger profits every year and it's also been shown those who illegally download, generally buy more music, films etc too.

    I'm not saying that illegal downloaders have the "right" to download what they want (Nothing annoys me more than someone who is clearly stealing taking the moral high ground) because they buy other stuff or because they have no intention of buying it anyway, because quite frankly what they're doing is wrong but the entertainment industry needs to stop feeding all this propaganda to the media and courts about losses when it couldn't be further from the case.
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    But the thing is, think if sites like this were never made, no one ever thought of them. I imagine i'd actually be buying music and dvds's...
    But in the ideal world your correct, one goes down another one comes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenMerc View Post
    But the thing is, think if sites like this were never made, no one ever thought of them. I imagine i'd actually be buying music and dvds's...
    But in the ideal world your correct, one goes down another one comes.
    Well I see where your coming from but that would mean FTP would of never been thought of, file sharing through applications such as WLM, Skype etc. Would be an interesting internet world!


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    I guess, But then again if those sites wern't made, would they even think of the idea of putting file sharing on WLM for example

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenMerc View Post
    But the thing is, think if sites like this were never made, no one ever thought of them. I imagine i'd actually be buying music and dvds's...
    But in the ideal world your correct, one goes down another one comes.
    That's not the case at all. I wouldn't pay for much of the stuff I download and I know that's the case for most.

    Would I pay for hundreds of TV Boxsets and countless discography's from artists I don't even like that much? No, but I'm happy to download it if it's free (Therefore it's not a "loss" to the record companies).

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenMerc View Post
    I guess, But then again if those sites wern't made, would they even think of the idea of putting file sharing on WLM for example
    This brings up an intersting thing I was thinking about the other day. Shouldn't Windows Live Messenger be taken down because lots of people have used it in the past for sending music to and from other users which is basically illegal downloading.

    My point is that WLM and Mega Upload are the same in a sense - its a service for uploading files. Anyone can upload files of both legal and illegal content e.g. copyrighted - does that make the service illegal, not really in my opinion.

    Does anyone know if anything will have happened to the members of Mega Upload who where paying for a pro account, because I would be really annoyed if I was uploading legal stuff and paying for it only for the site to be closed.

    Which brings me to another point, privacy. It is all about privacy these days. The problem is that I could upload a file called important documents.zip - it could be legal it might actually contain a copyrighted song and be simply hiding the fact - but the important question is how would anyone know - I could imagine the government trying to make it so that all files hosted had to be checked and that would be annoying if confidential information was in only aimed for certain people (some hosting services do allow you to password protect your uploads).

    Like some have also mentioned I am not a fan of piracy but these laws are going at it the wrong way. If they want to try and prevent it they need to in my opinion tackle the people uploading it and not the services they use. Closing a website isn't going to really worry an illegal uploader as there are plenty of more services out there (some that even encourage illegal stuff, although it's often hidden). Taking the site down is only a minor issue to the uploader but it is a major issue to the company running it and its customers.

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    I love how everyone is whining that megaupload shut down... If you know what SOPA is you should know what will be coming next If SOPA passes (most likely will) Then most very popular sites will be shutdown. Because of the radio on habbox sopa can cause something to habbox but most likely wont because not a big company or anything, Facebook Youtube etc Can Or Will be shut down because of this

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    Quote Originally Posted by twista500 View Post
    I love how everyone is whining that megaupload shut down... If you know what SOPA is you should know what will be coming next If SOPA passes (most likely will) Then most very popular sites will be shutdown. Because of the radio on habbox sopa can cause something to habbox but most likely wont because not a big company or anything, Facebook Youtube etc Can Or Will be shut down because of this
    Lol I think SOPA which seems to be dying slightly someone told me, won't take Facebook or YouTube. It could try, but I think the government would probably aim at closing small sites, as the big ones like those 2 couldcertaintyafford the best lawyers to defend them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peteyt View Post
    This brings up an intersting thing I was thinking about the other day. Shouldn't Windows Live Messenger be taken down because lots of people have used it in the past for sending music to and from other users which is basically illegal downloading.

    My point is that WLM and Mega Upload are the same in a sense - its a service for uploading files. Anyone can upload files of both legal and illegal content e.g. copyrighted - does that make the service illegal, not really in my opinion.

    Does anyone know if anything will have happened to the members of Mega Upload who where paying for a pro account, because I would be really annoyed if I was uploading legal stuff and paying for it only for the site to be closed.

    Which brings me to another point, privacy. It is all about privacy these days. The problem is that I could upload a file called important documents.zip - it could be legal it might actually contain a copyrighted song and be simply hiding the fact - but the important question is how would anyone know - I could imagine the government trying to make it so that all files hosted had to be checked and that would be annoying if confidential information was in only aimed for certain people (some hosting services do allow you to password protect your uploads).

    Like some have also mentioned I am not a fan of piracy but these laws are going at it the wrong way. If they want to try and prevent it they need to in my opinion tackle the people uploading it and not the services they use. Closing a website isn't going to really worry an illegal uploader as there are plenty of more services out there (some that even encourage illegal stuff, although it's often hidden). Taking the site down is only a minor issue to the uploader but it is a major issue to the company running it and its customers.
    Well MegaUpload wasn't closed down on the fact that it was a file sharing service, other reasons was involved which also includes: Earning points or some type of an award system if you upload files and that has a certain amount of downloads. I believe this was making them money and they didn't deal with copyright files efficiently like other sites may do.

    WLM - I can see what you mean and it's just a simple file transfer but I don't think anything will happen to it unless they were forced to. And if they were forced to then the world has gone crazy.

    Quote Originally Posted by twista500 View Post
    I love how everyone is whining that megaupload shut down... If you know what SOPA is you should know what will be coming next If SOPA passes (most likely will) Then most very popular sites will be shutdown. Because of the radio on habbox sopa can cause something to habbox but most likely wont because not a big company or anything, Facebook Youtube etc Can Or Will be shut down because of this
    Yes we know what SOPA is and it's pretty much dead at the moment.
    Last edited by xxMATTGxx; 24-01-2012 at 07:55 AM.


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