i don't get it

[Chris]

but i didn't actually break a rule anyway, this debates boring, don't be lazy and change the rules, there's no reason not to...

Yes you did, and because you didn't like the consequences you came here and complained about it by pointing out flaws which make no difference to how the rules work.

I posted this...

Allowed in normal circumstances but I'm not sure why you post this anyway as it would obviously be aimed at someone. This was removed tonight because you deliberately tried to bend the rules.

[Inseriousity.]

Content that isn't produced by you, so images and videos that contain mildly inappropriate content or minor filter avoidances are absolutely fine as long as a warning is shown with a spoiler. By actually writing the word or abbreviation, you are actually doing it yourself which is against the rules. Only abbreviations that are not directed at people like omfg or wtf is fine, but the word FU is not. I wouldn't say it's a loop hole as it does make sense.

It is a loophole if you've already posted it once, got warned for it and then posted it againin a spoiler with the clear intention to break the rules and try and get away with it.

[The Don]

Yes you did, and because you didn't like the consequences you came here and complained about it by pointing out flaws which make no difference to how the rules work.



Allowed in normal circumstances but I'm not sure why you post this anyway as it would obviously be aimed at someone. This was removed tonight because you deliberately tried to bend the rules.

It wasn't aimed at anyone, it was funny because you kept getting frustrated over it, when I first posted it, I didn't post it with the intention of saying **** you to somebody, in fact that was never the context I had in mind, the same sentence can have different meaning. There isn't a rule that states you can't use a loophole, there's only one which says you can't avoid the filter, which, is allowed if you follow rule a2. I gave a clear warning stating that the image contained rude language and also placed it in a spoiler, thus making it suitable according to rule a2...

[Chris]

It wasn't aimed at anyone, it was funny because you kept getting frustrated over it, when I first posted it, I didn't post it with the intention of saying **** you to somebody, in fact that was never the context I had in mind, the same sentence can have different meaning. There isn't a rule that states you can't use a loophole, there's only one which says you can't avoid the filter, which, is allowed if you follow rule a2. I gave a clear warning stating that the image contained rude language and also placed it in a spoiler, thus making it suitable according to rule a2...

I will repeat myself for a third time. Under the circumstances of the events, the image you posted was deliberately used to avoid the filter and to continue in breaking the rules, hence it was removed.

[The Don]

I will repeat myself for a third time. Under the circumstances of the events, the image you posted was deliberately used to avoid the filter and to continue in breaking the rules, hence it was removed.

Ok, I obviously can't get through to you, again, there's a flaw in your argument as rule a2 says you can post mildly inappropriate content (regardless whether it avoids the filter) which means the two rules counteract each other. Why not just modify the rule?!

[FlyingJesus]

Going by your logic Akeam I could quote someone and post a picture that has someone saying all sorts of abusive things, and as long as it's in a spoiler that's fine and not aimed at anyone as long as I say it's not

"Mildly inappropriate content" does not stretch to abusing other members

[GommeInc]

I don't cry when someone says FU over the internet, directly at me or others. Only deal with an insult when it is insulting - we're not 5 and been let loose on the internet for the first time. Abbreviations aren't insulting, they do a pee poor job at doing so.

[Martin]

Ok, I obviously can't get through to you, again, there's a flaw in your argument as rule a2 says you can post mildly inappropriate content (regardless whether it avoids the filter) which means the two rules counteract each other. Why not just modify the rule?!

There is also this part added onto the end which makes the decision justified. "The final decision on what is or is not inappropriate is at the Moderator's discretion."

In the circumstances you posted there was a lot of filter avoiding going on and so it was completely inappropriate and unjustified for you to post such content, there was no need for it basically. You deliberately tried to avoid the rules otherwise there would be no reason for you to post it other than trying to promote further rulebreaking within the threads. What other reason would you possibly have for posting that image lets be honest.

I fail to see where it mentions anything about the filter in rule A2 so you are adding that bit yourself in your head. To a lot of people it may be seen as offensive and not mildly inappropriate at all. In the circumstances of the way you did it it was NOT appropriate so not even rule A2 cant save you. Rule A3 is the actual rule you have broken and is the one you need to be looking at for future reference.


The rules are fine as they are really and the only one which perhaps needs tweaking would be the filter rule itself to include all of the abbreviations which are allowed which I believe was the main issue wanting to be addressed in this thread rather than you disputing something which Im sure the forum manager will clear up for you in the reported infractions thread.

[GommeInc]

The rules are fine as they are really and the only one which perhaps needs tweaking would be the filter rule itself to include all of the abbreviations which are allowed which I believe was the main issue wanting to be addressed in this thread rather than you disputing something which Im sure the forum manager will clear up for you in the reported infractions thread.

Good luck making that list, no-one has that much time to list billions of possible abbreviations that can be used. You'll be better off allowing all abbreviations and punishing in terms of context used or just listing FU as the only abbreviation you must not use, as it seems to be the only "insulting" abbreviation.

[Chris]

Ok, I obviously can't get through to you, again, there's a flaw in your argument as rule a2 says you can post mildly inappropriate content (regardless whether it avoids the filter) which means the two rules counteract each other. Why not just modify the rule?!

Because the rules aren't going to change every time someone complains. If it makes sense for them to be changed then I'm sure they would be, but Scott has told me that its unlikely that they'll be changed over something as minor as this. If the events of tonight didn't happen then the image would have been allowed so long as it wasn't aimed at another member in a serious way.

At the end of the day though, rules like this come down to the moderators discretion, so as much as you or anyone else dislike that fact, I very much doubt it's going to change.

Going by your logic Akeam I could quote someone and post a picture that has someone saying all sorts of abusive things, and as long as it's in a spoiler that's fine and not aimed at anyone as long as I say it's not

"Mildly inappropriate content" does not stretch to abusing other members

Exactly.

I don't cry when someone says FU over the internet, directly at me or others. Only deal with an insult when it is insulting - we're not 5 and been let loose on the internet for the first time. Abbreviations aren't insulting, they do a pee poor job at doing so.

Thats not the point. It may not bother you but habbox is a habbo fansite which unfortunately for some members is aimed at young teens. This means that we have to be very careful what we allow and dont allow on the forum.