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    She'd already been talked to, she obviously doesn't listen. Actions speak louder than words in this case.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Memorilla View Post
    Well technically yes, the fact that he bought it means he can do whatever he wants with it. But how can you say that, especially in a situation like this? I think people are failing to see the big picture here (not necessarily talking about people on Habbox, mostly people on YT)... I couldn't care less about the laptop; but rather his approach to "discipline" his child. It doesn't exactly matter who bought it, it's his method of discipline that's wrong. People need to stop backing this man's actions just because he bought the damn laptop. It's not an excuse for what he did, he doesn't get to pull out a gun when he can't be half-assed to talk to his own daughter. If he were to punish her at all, he could of easily taken away her laptop, but instead he shot it to "prove a point". And as for the teenager, I already explained it in my other post.
    suppose he could just whip out the belt instead. anyway, it all just seems that this is less todo with actually punishing the child and more about attempting to make the video go viral (which it's more or less doing) - but even if his motives what he says it is, srsly who cares. yes we live in a very materialistic society, but once again when it comes to being a parent, "proving a point" is more effective than bog-standard punishments of taking things away, repeating yourself numerous times and generally being blah. by stating "he could of easily taken away her laptop, but instead he shot it to prove a point", do you not get parenting and how to deal with a teenager? since when does simply taking things away solve anything? that's the definition of easier said than done lol. but yeah, he went to an extreme, but aslong as he isn't physically and mentally abusing the kid to harsh extremes, who cares lol, srsly.

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    I was agreeing with the paying things. She lives in that house, gets clean clothes, a bed, warmth etc for free, and all she has to do is chores which is fair enough. can be tiring so she may want to rant, so her dad being like that was very out of order. You just take away the laptop....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Memorilla View Post
    How is that fair? Is it OK for a man to beat his daughter to death because it's his daughter, his rules and on his property?
    I think what-:Undertaker:-meant is his 15 going on SIXTEEN daughter who doesn't have a job and is still living under her parents care should follow basic house rules unless you're implying that "doing the dishes" and "cleaning the counter tops" is akin to beating his daughter to death ...:eh:And by his property I think it meant the computer that HE bought and he has a choice on weather or not to shoot it, hell he could've popped it in the oven and ate it and we still can't really say **** cause he bought it = he can do whatever he wants with it.. that being the main point.

    And not forgetting she has been grounded before and warned that if something like that happens again that she would have to face harsher consequences? Quite frankly... asking her to get a job ain't even harsh... <_<
    I agree with the mans reasoningunderstandablethat he is pissed his daughter would talk **** about her family online for asking her to do simple chores.

    All except the part Asking her to pay him back for the software and bullets wasn't really what you would consider "fair to her" since he chose to shoot it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirrty View Post
    suppose he could just whip out the belt instead. anyway, it all just seems that this is less todo with actually punishing the child and more about attempting to make the video go viral (which it's more or less doing) - but even if his motives what he says it is, srsly who cares. yes we live in a very materialistic society, but once again when it comes to being a parent, "proving a point" is more effective than bog-standard punishments of taking things away, repeating yourself numerous times and generally being blah. by stating "he could of easily taken away her laptop, but instead he shot it to prove a point", do you not get parenting and how to deal with a teenager? since when does simply taking things away solve anything? that's the definition of easier said than done lol. but yeah, he went to an extreme, but aslong as he isn't physically and mentally abusing the kid to harsh extremes, who cares lol, srsly.
    I still probably would of been even more pissed at that, seeing as what she done was a typical teenager sort of thing. And you know what, you're right. Those methods never work as on a child or a teenager. But as I said in my other post, that teenager obviously thinks shes right. Once an arrogant teenager thinks shes right, she's going to continue thinking she's right. Grounding her for 3 months without properly explaining the situation and shooting her laptop isn't going to help. After watching that video it seemed pretty clear that he couldn't care less about his daughter and was more or less mending his crushed ego throughout the video and when he was shooting that laptop (Of course who am I to say).

    Will she have stopped doing what she does? Probably. But for what reason? From fear, or because she realizes how childish and ungrateful she really is? Of course half the world works that way, but if you had a child, would you rather have her stop what shes doing in fear or because she knows it's morally wrong? IMO he didn't really prove any point.

    She'd already been talked to, she obviously doesn't listen. Actions speak louder than words in this case.
    True, I guess.
    I think what-:Undertaker:-meant is his 15 going on SIXTEEN daughter who doesn't have a job and is still living under her parents care should follow basic house rules unless you're implying that "doing the dishes" and "cleaning the counter tops" is akin to beating his daughter to death ...:eh:And by his property I think it meant the computer that HE bought and he has a choice on weather or not to shoot it, hell he could've popped it in the oven and ate it and we still can't really say **** cause he bought it = he can do whatever he wants with it.. that being the main point.

    And not forgetting she has been grounded before and warned that if something like that happens again that she would have to face harsher consequences? Quite frankly... asking her to get a job ain't even harsh... <_<
    I agree with the mans reasoningunderstandablethat he is pissed his daughter would talk **** about her family online for asking her to do simple chores.

    All except the part Asking her to pay him back for the software and bullets wasn't really what you would consider "fair to her" since he chose to shoot it.
    Ahah, forget my silly comparison, it was pretty stupid. I know what he meant, but just because he bought something doesn't give him the excuse to shoot it, especially for discipline. I couldn't care less who bought it, it's the fact he shot it. Anyways, I already pretty much explained my point in my other post. ^.^ But yes, I agree that the teenager was ungrateful and whatnot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Memorilla View Post
    How is that fair? Is it OK for a man to beat his daughter to death because it's his daughter, his rules and on his property?
    No its not, but it is fine for him to break his own property.

    The girl has a right to her life and her safety, she doesn't however have a right to a laptop.
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    They both overreacted tbh.
    What she thinks chores are, I do twice that amounteveryday.
    The adult shouldn't of posted it on youtube, he should've sat down with the daughter and talk to her about it, or if he wants her friends to see what a idiot she is, he could've posted something on her facebook wall.
    Instead of shooting the laptop, he could've just kept it away from her.

    It's funny how at the start he's complaining about wasting $130 on software, them he wastes what, $600/700 by shooting her laptop. Lmfao





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    That guy didn't have to buy that laptop for her in the first place, if she's going to complain like that then I'd probably do the same. It wasn't like a ten second thing she put in facebook, it's obvious that she went to the effort to hide it from him so there was clearly some malicious intent in there. If anything the only dumb move was shooting it and not just pawning it off.
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    I would've been more angry if the laptop was just taken away; what use is it broken anyway?

    I don't think he was right to post all that on Facebook and stuff, that's just over reacting and really unfair on the daughter. No doubt her friends will have shown her it, that must've been awful. Feel really sorry for her.


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