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    I hope they go under. They screw over the developers with pre-owned and are preventing digital platforms from providing a good price etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippiewill View Post
    I hope they go under. They screw over the developers with pre-owned and are preventing digital platforms from providing a good price etc.
    And ebay and other similar sites not forgetting the whole illegal downloading going on with games don't rip off developers even more?

    I hope Game doesn't close - I work for Tesco and we sell console games, and most other supermarkets sell console games however there aren't many places these days selling actual PC games and with some games not available on services like Steam and some people not having a good connection at all (they may just want single player stuff) it would be hard to get hold of stuff locally - yeah you can go online but I prefer being able to buy it in a shop and take it straight away

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    Quote Originally Posted by peteyt View Post
    And ebay and other similar sites not forgetting the whole illegal downloading going on with games don't rip off developers even more?
    There's a difference between eBay and GAME where they actively encourage you to buy pre-owned because with only slightly reduced prices because they make better margins. Further, with GAME out of the picture digital prices drop and illegal downloading will drop also.

    Quote Originally Posted by peteyt View Post
    I hope Game doesn't close - I work for Tesco and we sell console games, and most other supermarkets sell console games however there aren't many places these days selling actual PC games and with some games not available on services like Steam and some people not having a good connection at all (they may just want single player stuff) it would be hard to get hold of stuff locally - yeah you can go online but I prefer being able to buy it in a shop and take it straight away
    GAME hasn't sold a reasonable selection of PC games in years, at least with GAME gone Steam and other digital distribution platforms can start using better prices without GAME blackmailing the publishers. Other stores are more likely to stock PC once GAME is gone anyway.
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    Second hand game sales are exactly the same as pirated downloads to the developer. In either case, the developer doesn't get a single penny.

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    i like game/gamestation so i think this is sad :{

    has anyone been down to the sale today seen whats going on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippiewill View Post
    There's a difference between eBay and GAME where they actively encourage you to buy pre-owned because with only slightly reduced prices because they make better margins. Further, with GAME out of the picture digital prices drop and illegal downloading will drop also.

    GAME hasn't sold a reasonable selection of PC games in years, at least with GAME gone Steam and other digital distribution platforms can start using better prices without GAME blackmailing the publishers. Other stores are more likely to stock PC once GAME is gone anyway.
    Illegal downloading will drop? What brought you to that conclusion? If anything it's more likely to increase as those who buy preowned games either can't afford or do not want to spend a lot on games so may just not spend any at all. I also don't see why shops would stock PC games if Game was to close? If anything they'd be more careful in what they buy as they may see it as game sales are slowing down. Your post makes no sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen View Post
    Second hand game sales are exactly the same as pirated downloads to the developer. In either case, the developer doesn't get a single penny.
    The difference is, second hand purchasers are more likely to buy other things related to the product like DLC or online passes.

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    I'm not suprised. In Nuneaton CEX has completely wrecked GAME in sales. No-one buys from GAME anymore. I remember when everyone used to get their games from there too

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz View Post
    Illegal downloading will drop? What brought you to that conclusion? If anything it's more likely to increase as those who buy preowned games either can't afford or do not want to spend a lot on games so may just not spend any at all. I also don't see why shops would stock PC games if Game was to close? If anything they'd be more careful in what they buy as they may see it as game sales are slowing down. Your post makes no sense.
    They would start stocking PC games because they wouldn't have competition from GAME. Illegal downloading would drop as digital distribution prices would drop as publishers won't get blackmailed for cheap prices by GAME.

    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz View Post
    The difference is, second hand purchasers are more likely to buy other things related to the product like DLC or online passes.
    I'm sure the developer is fine with their tiny share of the money for the full game + DLC after it's gone through microsoft and the publisher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippiewill View Post
    They would start stocking PC games because they wouldn't have competition from GAME. Illegal downloading would drop as digital distribution prices would drop as publishers won't get blackmailed for cheap prices by GAME.
    But their main competition isn't GAME, infact the only PC games they really have (at least in my local one) is the Sims and WoW with the few big PC titles like Skyrim. It's a fact most PC games do not sell as well compared to their console counterpart and that's probably why other shops don't bother.

    I'm sure the developer is fine with their tiny share of the money for the full game + DLC after it's gone through microsoft and the publisher.
    Not sure why you put Microsoft as if they're the only ones who take a cut but anyway, that comment isn't even related to what I put. I was saying that they could be more likely to make up whatever they avoided through the purchase of DLC. However, to respond to your point here is a snip from a Eurogamer article:

    If you bought a game in the run-up to Christmas and it cost £39.99 to buy, approximately £7 (17.5 per cent) went on VAT (that figure increased to 20 per cent as of 4th January), while £10.50 (27 per cent) went to the shop and £12 (30 per cent) to the publisher.

    The rest goes on what's called cost of goods: the nuts and bolts of videogame publishing. 65 pence (two per cent) goes on distribution, £1.75 (four to five per cent) on marketing, and an £8 (20 per cent) licence fee goes to the platform holder (Microsoft, Nintendo or Sony). All these costs are paid for by the game's publisher. If a third-party is behind the game, approximately £3 goes to the developer, or 25 per cent of the publisher's revenue after deductibles, although developers are often paid in a series of advances as they meet milestones.
    So you can see why the developer does not get as much as the publisher due to the fact they fund the mass of it most of the time. I can only imagine the cost to the platform holder goes towards the R&D costs of the console and potentially the next console.

    You'll often find publishers struggling aswell as developers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippiewill View Post
    There's a difference between eBay and GAME where they actively encourage you to buy pre-owned because with only slightly reduced prices because they make better margins. Further, with GAME out of the picture digital prices drop and illegal downloading will drop also.

    GAME hasn't sold a reasonable selection of PC games in years, at least with GAME gone Steam and other digital distribution platforms can start using better prices without GAME blackmailing the publishers. Other stores are more likely to stock PC once GAME is gone anyway.
    I rarely buy PC games at the moment but the Game down here I have seen has had some decent ones and special offers to - but to say that game closing will reduce illegal downloading is a massive lie. If anything those who can't get the games cheap as they currently can will result to illegally obtaining them if they can.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen View Post
    Second hand game sales are exactly the same as pirated downloads to the developer. In either case, the developer doesn't get a single penny.
    There is a massive difference. And why are we picking on just Game though. Going by this logic, all charity shops that sell games are also ripping off developers.

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