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    Quote Originally Posted by Paige. View Post
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    No I don't think that it should ban under 18's and here are my reasons:

    1. Even if you do ban under 18's they are still going to sign-up and you cant really block their IP's because a lot of olders also use the same IP.

    2. Minors make Facebook work, I would say that half the people on Facebook.

    3. Friends are key.... when one friend of a social group gets a Facebook they all do and that doesn't just bring Facebook more members but more money.... more people playing 'Games'. and clicking on Runescape, Habboads ECT

    4. My last reason is kind of about me. When I was younger i couldn't read or write but Facebook helped. After reading what people are saying and replying you learn and progress. Its not the BBC Bitsize but it kinda works?

    So yeah, thats what I think! :p
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    Quote Originally Posted by ,AAiden View Post
    No I don't think that it should ban under 18's and here are my reasons:

    1. Even if you do ban under 18's they are still going to sign-up and you cant really block their IP's because a lot of olders also use the same IP.

    2. Minors make Facebook work, I would say that half the people on Facebook.

    3. Friends are key.... when one friend of a social group gets a Facebook they all do and that doesn't just bring Facebook more members but more money.... more people playing 'Games'. and clicking on Runescape, Habboads ECT

    4. My last reason is kind of about me. When I was younger i couldn't read or write but Facebook helped. After reading what people are saying and replying you learn and progress. Its not the BBC Bitsize but it kinda works?

    So yeah, thats what I think! :p
    I agree but nobody said anything about blocking ips, I think that Facebook should track their IPs after they've registered as an under 18 year old so they cannot sign out and create another account with an older, fake age.
    Also for your second point, where are your statistics to prove this? I would disagree with this because I witness A LOT of over 18s using Facebook and regularly posting and commenting.
    For your fourth point if you couldn't read how did you read what people wrote on Facebook to in turn, learn how to write?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paige. View Post
    I agree but nobody said anything about blocking ips, I think that Facebook should track their IPs after they've registered as an under 18 year old so they cannot sign out and create another account with an older, fake age.
    Also for your second point, where are your statistics to prove this? I would disagree with this because I witness A LOT of over 18s using Facebook and regularly posting and commenting.
    For your fourth point if you couldn't read how did you read what people wrote on Facebook to in turn, learn how to write?
    1. I mean that if they know ur under 18 then they cant ban ips because others use it. I was js.
    2. I was just saying that they have a bit community that you don't really notice about olders.
    4. Because people fix ur mistakes and after reading the same thing over and over you can guess what it says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ,AAiden View Post
    1. I mean that if they know ur under 18 then they cant ban ips because others use it. I was js.
    2. I was just saying that they have a bit community that you don't really notice about olders.
    4. Because people fix ur mistakes and after reading the same thing over and over you can guess what it says.

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    Why would they ban the ip of an under 18 year old? We both agree that under 18s should be allowed to use Facebook.
    Sorry the second point didn't make sense to me, please elaborate. I asked how it helped you to read and that didn't answer my question at all because that would only help you to write because they would be correcting what you have written? I still don't understand how you could of read what they said when they corrected you if you still couldn't read but this argument hasn't got anything to do with the actual debate so ermm, although you think that Facebook shouldn't be banned for under 18s do you have any ideas for which people might think that it should be banned?
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    Why do under 18s need to be banned from using Facebook? What would this accomplish? As someone earlier people under the age of 18 can be mature, turning 18 doesn't automatically make you mature and sensible I'm 19 and I don't feel either of those things very often!

    I can tell you for a fact somebody is going to bring up the pedophile argument, well there are hundreds more other online websites plus all we need to do is educate people about the dangers of being online and the possibilities of what could happen if you met somebody off the Internet you didn't know! Which I'm sure all parents educate their children about my mum still does it to me even now every so often.

    I don't think we need to go as far as banning Facebook but maybe educating children about the risks of being online and what to be aware of, i personally think they should do more of this in schools it wouldn't hurt them too I never had this at school and I'm sure many of you didn't either.

    Fact of the matter is, banned or not minors will still be able to access Facebook just like minors can still get into clubs using fake I.d there is always a way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paige. View Post
    Why would they ban the ip of an under 18 year old? We both agree that under 18s should be allowed to use Facebook.
    Sorry the second point didn't make sense to me, please elaborate. I asked how it helped you to read and that didn't answer my question at all because that would only help you to write because they would be correcting what you have written? I still don't understand how you could of read what they said when they corrected you if you still couldn't read but this argument hasn't got anything to do with the actual debate so ermm, although you think that Facebook shouldn't be banned for under 18s do you have any ideas for which people might think that it should be banned?
    Just forget about the reading and writing thing. They would ban the Ip so under 18's cant sign up. and if they was going to ban under 18's I think they would do it because It's unsafe for people and they could meet up with pedos. plus kids end up dead after cyber-fights and some of facebooks rules say that u can be mean to each other. If you watch this doc on iPlayer that could make you want to stop under 18's http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ocial_Network/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ocial_Network/

    But they really isn't away to stop under 18's from signing up. If you can't bet them join them and help them as much as you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catchy View Post
    Why do under 18s need to be banned from using Facebook? What would this accomplish? As someone earlier people under the age of 18 can be mature, turning 18 doesn't automatically make you mature and sensible I'm 19 and I don't feel either of those things very often!

    I can tell you for a fact somebody is going to bring up the pedophile argument, well there are hundreds more other online websites plus all we need to do is educate people about the dangers of being online and the possibilities of what could happen if you met somebody off the Internet you didn't know! Which I'm sure all parents educate their children about my mum still does it to me even now every so often.

    I don't think we need to go as far as banning Facebook but maybe educating children about the risks of being online and what to be aware of, i personally think they should do more of this in schools it wouldn't hurt them too I never had this at school and I'm sure many of you didn't either.

    Fact of the matter is, banned or not minors will still be able to access Facebook just like minors can still get into clubs using fake I.d there is always a way!
    OI way just saying that about pedo's. They is no way of stop anything anymore online so we need to support under 18's but help them as much as we can and thats what facebook should be doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ,AAiden View Post
    Just forget about the reading and writing thing. They would ban the Ip so under 18's cant sign up. and if they was going to ban under 18's I think they would do it because It's unsafe for people and they could meet up with pedos. plus kids end up dead after cyber-fights and some of facebooks rules say that u can be mean to each other. If you watch this doc on iPlayer that could make you want to stop under 18's http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ocial_Network/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ocial_Network/

    But they really isn't away to stop under 18's from signing up. If you can't bet them join them and help them as much as you can.

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    OI way just saying that about pedo's. They is no way of stop anything anymore online so we need to support under 18's but help them as much as we can and thats what facebook should be doing.
    I forgot to mention this in my post, yes they could meet up with paedos but there's also a large amount of adults who can also meet up with absolute nut jobs, children aren't the only victims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catchy View Post
    I forgot to mention this in my post, yes they could meet up with paedos but there's also a large amount of adults who can also meet up with absolute nut jobs, children aren't the only victims.
    true but some teens are really stupid or new to the internet and dont under whats really going on! Have you seen Hard Candy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catchy View Post
    Why do under 18s need to be banned from using Facebook? What would this accomplish? As someone earlier people under the age of 18 can be mature, turning 18 doesn't automatically make you mature and sensible I'm 19 and I don't feel either of those things very often!

    I can tell you for a fact somebody is going to bring up the pedophile argument, well there are hundreds more other online websites plus all we need to do is educate people about the dangers of being online and the possibilities of what could happen if you met somebody off the Internet you didn't know! Which I'm sure all parents educate their children about my mum still does it to me even now every so often.

    I don't think we need to go as far as banning Facebook but maybe educating children about the risks of being online and what to be aware of, i personally think they should do more of this in schools it wouldn't hurt them too I never had this at school and I'm sure many of you didn't either.

    Fact of the matter is, banned or not minors will still be able to access Facebook just like minors can still get into clubs using fake I.d there is always a way!
    I totally agree with this and yeah everyone always finds a way. I think that there should be fixed security settings for users under the age of 18 which they cannot change until they reach the age of 18 and Facebook should log their IPs so they cannot log out as soon as they realise that there are restrictions and make a new account, I know people would find a way to swerve this also but it could make certain issues easier to handle.

    Quote Originally Posted by ,AAiden View Post
    Just forget about the reading and writing thing. They would ban the Ip so under 18's cant sign up. and if they was going to ban under 18's I think they would do it because It's unsafe for people and they could meet up with pedos. plus kids end up dead after cyber-fights and some of facebooks rules say that u can be mean to each other. If you watch this doc on iPlayer that could make you want to stop under 18's http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ocial_Network/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01dwg1n/The_AntiSocial_Network/
    Yep. Although, Facebook isn't the only social networking site out there and I doubt that if Facebook were to enforce this rule, the majority of other social networking sites wouldn't as this would decrease their user numbers and money coming in so it really wouldn't make much difference as bullies will always find a way to get to the victim.
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