counterproductive moderation.

[beth]

This is about what the forum needs. What is best for the community? What are management scared of?

Staff bonding needs sorting if it relies on a staff spam forum. I'm not attacking anyone, just trying to open up minds, as there are other ways to improve staff relationships and help new staff get involved. They became staff to be involved, or did I get that wrong?

my main argument FOR closing staff spam was that staff should be supporting the community but i was shot down with comments such as "it isn't 'you scratch my back and we'll scratch yours'" apparently they don't feel the need to support the community as a whole. i wish the thread with management was in the open and people could see the battle myself and matt had. people just don't want it shut apparently.

[MissAlice]

I fully understand every department having a sub-forum for discussion, where they can discuss things that relate to each of their departments. But I fail to see why there is a need for a spam thread. It takes them away from the community that they are supposedly expected to be involved with. Hardly encouraging is it.

[FlyingJesus]

There isn't even a staff spam thread, just individual ones for the department, which enables our department to bond with each other and get to know one another.

Something which is quite possible in public spaces, which would also let non-staff get to know you

Please give over about not being hostile because it was back then and it still is. I can link to numerous examples. I even invited people to this forum before and felt that people were so rude that they couldn't say.

The rudeness of some of the people you brought in had nothing to do with that, of course... Also nothing that anyone could possibly say is more hostile than giving yourselves a separate area cut off from everyone else where only select people can converse. If you can't see that then you have no place even attempting to debate this

Also I am sure you would moan about the type of content that would then be posted in spam if it were to be removed. 'No habbo in spam' How many times has that been repeated?

Usually in jest, and not at all recently. Most people do actually tend to just stay away if content doesn't suit them

Anyway I don't believe that taking the spam thread away will force people to post in spam. They won't feel comfortable and simply will not post.

Then as I've said a few times on this matter, they have absolutely no place as supposed representatives of our community. That's a shocking stance to take, suggesting that only fellow staff members can be civil and welcoming as though having a job with Habbox magically makes you worthy of the Nobel Peace Prize

[Catchy]

I'm gonna butt in a sec, I do think that staff members need to be encouraged more to most in the actual forums, forget spam for a second just generally the forums. At the end of the day they're representing Habbox and they need to show dedication by all means, even if it's just a couple of posts a day it's not asking for much.

I understand the DJ department have a scheme where whoever has been the most active throughout the forum can win a month VIP?

But yeah, I think that if you're Habbox staff you should be expected to post throughout the forum and be active. I sometimes look at some of the staff names at the bottom of the forum and have NO IDEA who any of them are because they aren't active enough. If every staff member posted just a couple of threads a week then I'm sure the forum would be a lot more active? Because right now I only see certain members posting threads to keep the forum alive.

[David]

I'm gonna butt in a sec, I do think that staff members need to be encouraged more to most in the actual forums, forget spam for a second just generally the forums. At the end of the day they're representing Habbox and they need to show dedication by all means, even if it's just a couple of posts a day it's not asking for much.

I understand the DJ department have a scheme where whoever has been the most active throughout the forum can win a month VIP?

But yeah, I think that if you're Habbox staff you should be expected to post throughout the forum and be active. I sometimes look at some of the staff names at the bottom of the forum and have NO IDEA who any of them are because they aren't active enough. If every staff member posted just a couple of threads a week then I'm sure the forum would be a lot more active? Because right now I only see certain members posting threads to keep the forum alive.

this should be for all departments tbh. but there is the member of the month thing which is similar concept, post actively and get vip.

[Catchy]

Also I think some of the DJ's aren't active on the forum because that's all they want to do DJ, they aren't really too bothered about the community and I think they only post rarely because they've had to join up to the forum in the first place to apply for their positions.

[MissAlice]

I'm gonna butt in a sec, I do think that staff members need to be encouraged more to most in the actual forums, forget spam for a second just generally the forums. At the end of the day they're representing Habbox and they need to show dedication by all means, even if it's just a couple of posts a day it's not asking for much.

I understand the DJ department have a scheme where whoever has been the most active throughout the forum can win a month VIP?

But yeah, I think that if you're Habbox staff you should be expected to post throughout the forum and be active. I sometimes look at some of the staff names at the bottom of the forum and have NO IDEA who any of them are because they aren't active enough. If every staff member posted just a couple of threads a week then I'm sure the forum would be a lot more active? Because right now I only see certain members posting threads to keep the forum alive.

What a great positive reply, I'm glad you said it because you read my mind, staff just need encouraging. I'm very surprised it's not mentioned in the staff handbook! It doesn't have to be serious stuff like current affairs etc. There are many threads that are fun related

[Red]

Surely you realise staff don't feel comfortable posting in spam. Ask yourself why that is :rolleyes: It's not jest at all. Comments in the past have put people posting off from making threads there because they feel like they are going to get negative comments. They have even made members leave/not stick around. HxHD has staff from the UK, US and Australia. We aren't on at the same times on habbo but it facilitates discussion and getting to know people in our department. I'm active in other forums and other staff should be too. Don't think taking away staff forums is a fix though.

[beth]

Surely you realise staff don't feel comfortable posting in spam. Ask yourself why that is :rolleyes: It's not jest at all. Comments in the past have put people posting off from making threads there because they feel like they are going to get negative comments. They have even made members leave/not stick around. HxHD has staff from the UK, US and Australia. We aren't on at the same times on habbo but it facilitates discussion and getting to know people in our department. I'm active in other forums and other staff should be too. Don't think taking away staff forums is a fix though.

i don't really understand how spam is THAT negative anymore, infact it's pretty friendly at the moment.

if people just gave it a GO.

[FlyingJesus]

Surely you realise staff don't feel comfortable posting in spam. Ask yourself why that is :rolleyes:

It's because small-minded people like yourself with very limited experience portray the spam section as some den of evil where only approved members can post without being lynched. This is not the case and has not been the case for years. If it was at all true there would be a hell of a lot fewer people posting in there, because I know for certain that not every regular user gets on and yet somehow (!!!) we all manage to coexist, with things only blowing up if someone is genuinely deserving it.

It's not jest at all.

Sorry, I forgot that you (being all superior as a staff member and all) know better than we do what we're thinking

Comments in the past have put people posting off from making threads there because they feel like they are going to get negative comments. They have even made members leave/not stick around.

Yes, if you make an arse of yourself people will point it out. This is not something that only exists in the spam section, as proved by this very post

HxHD has staff from the UK, US and Australia. We aren't on at the same times on habbo but it facilitates discussion and getting to know people in our department. I'm active in other forums and other staff should be too. Don't think taking away staff forums is a fix though.

...And again, such discussions should not and do not have to take place behind closed doors, especially when the aim appears to be creating a harmonious community where people get along. Shutting yourself away and acting like you need some special protection from the wild beasts that are non-staff members is certainly not for the good of the community as a whole