Government plans to monitor all our electronic data (emails, texts etc)

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/c...he-Government-
want-to-make-GCHQ-the-Big-Brother-for-Europe.html
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ja...#disqus_thread
http://eureferendum.blogspot.co.uk/2...e-dellers.html
http://order-order.com/2012/04/10/di...nick/#comments

Does the Government want to make GCHQ the 'Big Brother' for Europe?

GCHQ's giant Cheltenham facility is the only place in Europe capable of housing the projected cybercrime operation.

The vast GCHQ centre at Cheltenham, opened in 2004

Two weeks ago it was “Pasty-gate”. Last week it was “Big Brother-gate”, the storm which erupted over reports that the Government is planning to set up a £2 billion cyber-surveillance centre at GCHQ, to monitor data on all electronic exchanges, through emails, Facebook, Skype and mobile phones.

As readers of this column will know, whenever the Government comes up with some proposal which is hugely unpopular and the justification for which is not immediately clear – from charging VAT on hot pies to creating a high-speed rail service from London to Birmingham – it is always worth inquiring as to whether there is some hidden European dimension at work. This Snoopergate furore is no exception.

Clues as to what is going on here proliferate in all directions. Last November, the Government announced that it would spend £650 million on beefing up British cyber-security as part of its Strategic Defence and Security Review; and that top British firms were to be offered the chance to buy top-secret security software from GCHQ.

Last week, GCHQ announced that it would be paying eight UK universities to set up Academic Centres of Excellence in Cyber-Security Research. The minister in charge of cyber-security, Francis Maude, makes no secret of the importance the Government attaches to this issue, although of course he makes no mention of Europe, but only claims that it wishes “to make the UK one of the most secure places in the world to do business”.

The biggest clue, however, was the announcement on March 28 by the EU’s Commissioner for Home Affairs, Cecilia Malmström, that Brussels is setting up a European Cybercrime Centre “to help protect European citizens and businesses against these mounting cyber-threats”. Initially this is to be part of Europol, at its headquarters in the Hague (formerly occupied by the Gestapo). But these premises are too small for an organisation on the scale that the Commission seems to have in mind. In fact, Europe has only one facility large enough to be an EU-wide cyber-surveillance centre, and that is GCHQ’s vast £330-million complex in Cheltenham, opened eight years ago.

All this is part of the European Internal Security Strategy, laid out in several documents on the Commission’s Europa website, which make it clear that the EU regards electronic crimes of all kinds, from credit card fraud to terrorist plotting, as a collective concern, linked in with defence intelligence. It looks to all member states to launch their own initiatives towards building what it calls the European Security Model.

Interestingly, as long ago as 2010, the European Union Committee of the House of Lords produced a report entitled “Protecting Europe against Large Scale Cyber-Attacks”, and in several respects it was critical of what the Commission was up to. In particular, the peers expressed surprise that a Communication from the Commission only once mentioned Nato. They suggested that “the EU and Nato should urgently develop their thinking on working together” and that the EU should use “the institutional changes introduced by the Treaty of Lisbon” to ensure that co-operation with Nato was “put on a more formal basis”.

There is little evidence to suggest that Brussels has taken any more notice of this report by the Lords than it does of any other report produced by that august body. The European Security Model is but the latest of those projects that are constantly being launched to further the one real and constant EU agenda: to promote “ever closer union” by extending its own powers. It can be added to a list that already includes the Common Agricultural and Fisheries Policies, the Single Market, the single currency and the Trans-European Networks that seek to link together all the EU’s rail, road, aviation and telecommunication systems.

All this entails ever more “European agencies” to administer these policies, and there are few things that member states like more than the right to host one of those agencies on their own territory. To be the permanent home of the EU’s cyber-surveillance centre – bringing with it thousands of jobs and immense prestige – will indeed be a prize to be coveted. Hence, one suspects, our Government’s efforts to promote GCHQ as the place which has more to commend it than anywhere else in Europe.

None of this has been admitted to the outside world, however. At the beginning of last week, I therefore put some questions to the Home Office, the department supposedly intending to introduce into next month’s Queen’s Speech a Bill creating all these controversial new powers of electronic surveillance. One question was simply whether, in drawing up this Bill, the Government has been working closely with the Commission – since electronic security is now an EU “occupied field”, which means that no member country can produce policy on such an issue independently of Brussels.

At time of going to press, I have had no response. When a ministry press office fails to reply to a question, it generally suggests that one is may be on to something.

I know we have the fake civil liberties mob on here who think that the internet ought to be unregulated (see the debate in the Debates Forum) but then will argue with me and thus contradict themselves completely on matters such as freedom of speech, the freedom to smoke on premises should the property owner wish to allow it, terrorism measures such as feeling people up at the airports (the TSA) and many other issues - but here we are again, more freedoms being taken away with electronic data due to be monitored and recorded by the government.

Now you may have already seen this in the media or on the television, but as Christopher Booker, Dr. Richard North, James Delingpole and others have explained in the links provided above - these unpopular measures actually stem from a EU directive (see the EU Referendum link for more detail on this) which means that our 'government', if you can call it that, is simply taking orders from our real government in Brussels.

I keep saying how all of these elections and so on are useless until you leave the European Union, because as with the majority of our laws now - what and who you vote for simply does not matter, it's all decided in Brussels by men and women most of you and I have never heard of before. This is not a conspiracy or an illusion my fellow subjects, this is the reality of how our country is now run. What are you going to do about it?

Thoughts?

[FiftyCal]

Well that's crap.

[Lee]

Surely that breaches our rights, privacy etc...

[dbgtz]

Surely that breaches our rights, privacy etc...

It does, if I recall correctly the Data Protection Act (I think that's it) states emails etc. can only be intercepted if there is reasonable evidence that someone is up to no good, starting to make trouble in the neighbourhood (lol, I can't remember what it actually says word by word).

For all we know though, it could be a hypothetical thing so that it is easier to access anyones device if necessary.

[FlyingJesus]

Loving how people think they can't already access such things if they want to anyway. Also I wish people would stop putting -gate at the end of any phrase to do with something they don't like, it's rather stupid

Just wondering exactly what liberties (other than secrecy) people think are being taken away simply by monitoring things. Obviously if it doesn't stop there and reports are fabricated to detain unpopular persons or whatever that's another matter but simply having the power to look at things doesn't sound all that terrible to a mostly law-abiding citizen

[Inseriousity.]

If there are people snooping on our every email, I feel sorry for the poor bugger stuck watching me. All I seem to get is spam these days where they don't even bother hiding the dodgy links.

[MrViaticus]

This has the be one of the maddest suggestions that I've ever heard. If this really does happen then I will be sure to boy-cot anything digital that is being moderated by the government. I'd probably even go to London and loose my vital wages to protest and protect the future of the nation from the sheer idiocy of the government.