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    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    No no no, you're using the Habbox definition of manage. He's a co-ordinator, he doesn't set roles within his department
    Yes he does

    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc
    nor can he administrate his department.
    Yes he can, using the same procedures in place as every other department manager to ensure that there is fairness and no hierarchy of managers form. All department managers are equal, no department is above another.

    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc
    If he was a Manager, he would be a Forum Administrator on a basic level (set permissions for forums, users etc.) and then you chuck the manage part on top where he can set those people tasks to perform and alter his surroundings. I assume he currently has permissions to, for example, change the titles of forums which is one of the basic demands of a Manager? A Tesco Manager, for example, can change the layout of their store, set roles and make basic administrative changes. If he can't, he's a pure and simple co-ordinator.
    Again he can do this.

    All managers are given freedom to manage their department how they would like. AGMs are mostly observers who chip in if help is asked for or if a problem is so serious it requires urgent attention from someone higher up. Habbox uses the same definition of manage as everyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx View Post
    Scott said himself he was waiting for someone to give the two members staff permissions. Your last post also made it look like you wanted Forum Management to be able to deal with permissions across the forum and that would mean ALL staff permissions.

    If Scott had a problem with the wait, he knows what he can do. It has caused 0 problems whatsoever.
    I didn't suggest that at all but Habbox Management are also known to "put words in the mouths of other people". In essence yes, because you cannot seperate who can give permissions to who, but you can have a rule that they can only change the permissions of anything related to the forum e.g. moderators, super moderators, administrators, banned members, VIP members, cautioned members etc. etc.

    It was merely a comment on how useless Habbox Managers seem to be, and how they really are not Managers. It's something that's never made any sense

    Quote Originally Posted by Inseriousity. View Post
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    All of this contradicts all the above - he clearly cannot if he cannot set permissions for his department. Managers can hire staff and get them up and running immediately. Another interesting tidbit about Habbox Management, they contradict each other. There is no solidarity, continuity and consistency.
    Last edited by GommeInc; 25-04-2012 at 10:33 PM.

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    Just thought I would add on that a Tesco Manager can only change a small part of the actual store layout. I'm sure you all wanted to know that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx View Post
    Just thought I would add on that a Tesco Manager can only change a small part of the actual store layout. I'm sure you all wanted to know that.
    Actually this is false. They can move around whole aisles if they wanted to and even practice this in most small stores like Metros and Expresses, where space is an issue. Self-scan checkouts are one example where Store Managers have had to alter store layouts to accomodate ever-changing technological advances. They cannot make huge physical alterations, like move the deli and fresh food counters to the other side of the store, for the obvious reason that they are too expensive and unnecessary
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    You ignored the middle section where I responded to that. There is no contradiction. Ironically the reason he doesn't set permissions is because there is continuity and consistency. Other department managers can not set permissions for their department so he goes through the same process as them. You're taking a rather small part of the management process and assuming that they are not given the room/space to manage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    Actually this is false. They can move around whole aisles if they wanted to and even practice this in most small stores like Metros and Expresses, where space is an issue. Self-scan checkouts are one example where Store Managers have had to alter store layouts.
    Sorry but I asked a person who works in the actual store? I said small parts, I didn't detail which parts they could change. They still get sent plans from whoever is above for the overall store layout. Just like Apple nearly have the same layout across their stores, that is because it has been set by management above any store manager or whatever they may have.
    Last edited by xxMATTGxx; 25-04-2012 at 10:40 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Inseriousity. View Post
    You ignored the middle section where I responded to that. There is no contradiction. Ironically the reason he doesn't set permissions is because there is continuity and consistency. Other department managers can not set permissions for their department so he goes through the same process as them. You're taking a rather small part of the management process and assuming that they are not given the room/space to manage.
    So he has the power to do so, but isn't allowed to edit it himself so that other managers don't think it's unfair because they don't have the powers to do so? If I'm reading that correctly then it's ridiculous, if he's the forum manager, that's part of his role, obviously the other managers don't need to do this, that's the forum managers job, sorting out forum perms etc so it isn't unfair in the slightest if scott is allowed to do this and other managers aren't.
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    Then going by your above argument, you claim all managers should do that?

    I don't see what's broken with the system. Sure, in the past permissions were done quicker, but the system has been like it has for the past few years.
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    a no to the merge of the rs forum. I don't use it as much as I have in the past because I'm rarely on rs but it would be a shame to bury the entire section again. i think having it out in the open like this has actually encouraged a few to (re)start playing it.

    as for the absence of a coder... what about blob? unperm him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    a no to the merge of the rs forum. I don't use it as much as I have in the past because I'm rarely on rs but it would be a shame to bury the entire section again. i think having it out in the open like this has actually encouraged a few to (re)start playing it.

    as for the absence of a coder... what about blob? unperm him.
    Blob's back on another account .

    As for the coder yeh, you can open apps. I know some other sites have done it and it's worked very well for them. However, the concern would be in permissions and trust.
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