Weed

[Judas]

If you actually read what I wrote instead of going defensive stoner on me then you'd read that I was saying from PERSONAL VIEW POINT I have seen a lot of people who smoke weed regularly who's minds hav been affected dramatically.

And yes, actually I would say everyone who smokes lungs get damaged, because they do.
However I am not saying that everyone that smokes weed will get mental problems. If I believed that then why would I have done it myself.

A nice little generalisation there, assuming I'm a "stoner". Perhaps I'm just a regular person who can see logic and forms my opinions on actual research I've undertaken myself instead of being ill-informed by a load of misconceptions.

It's not your fault if the people you know are so stupid that they smoked it so much, but that doesn't represent an entire group of people at ALL.

I wasn't debating the fact that smoke damages lungs, my point is that alcohol and tobacco both cause more damage than marijuana does, so my question to you is should they be illegal as well, just as you think marijuana should?

[Glen Coco]

Nice saying I have no logic, brilliant assumption seeing as youre saying this because I have a different opinion to you.

I'm saying it's illegal, not that it shouldn't be done occasionally. However if it became legal it would be done far more and much more openly then it is now which, much like alcohol and tobacco, encourages children to start and binge drink, getting themselves into dangerous situations at young ages.

I don't think that tobacco and alcohol should be legal as they do do a lot of harm to the body and society, however , again, I'm not saying it shouldn't be done occasionally in a controlled way.

Instead of basing everything you're saying on research, that you said yourself hasn't been completed, open your eyes to people who are actually doing it.

[Judas]

Nice saying I have no logic, brilliant assumption seeing as youre saying this because I have a different opinion to you.

I'm saying it's illegal, not that it shouldn't be done occasionally. However if it became legal it would be done far more and much more openly then it is now which, much like alcohol and tobacco, encourages children to start and binge drink, getting themselves into dangerous situations at young ages.

I don't think that tobacco and alcohol should be legal as they do do a lot of harm to the body and society, however , again, I'm not saying it shouldn't be done occasionally in a controlled way.

Instead of basing everything you're saying on research, that you said yourself hasn't been completed, open your eyes to people who are actually doing it.

It's not that you have a different opinion, it's that you have a different opinion formed entirely on mythical facts about cannabis and a few people you know.

Do you not think it might work the other way and people do it BECAUSE it isn't legal? Rules were made to be broken, the "rebellious" thing feels cool (to them) etc? Because then, it's illegal for kids to smoke and drink until they're 18 anyway so the fact they are legal for adults is irrelevant.

I don't understand what you mean by "a controlled way". Do you have an example? Cos what I'm reading at the moment is something along the lines of "alcohol, tobacco and marijuana should be illegal but they should be slightly legal too". But I'm sure that isn't what you mean.

And I have a lot of friends who do it, I occasionally do it too. There are also many successful people who openly smoke weed and they're fine. My eyes are very open, I don't think yours are though

[Glen Coco]

Well you're saying that my opinion is wrong.
I not saying anything about 'myths' of cannabis, I'm saying from what I've seen and I don't care if you disagree because you're goin to keep saying how much research an md**** you've done.
I PERSONALLY don't think it should be legal.

A controlled way of drinking is like a pub, or where I work if someone's had too much they'll be turned down.

Yes I know successful people smoke weed. But it depends how much they do it.

[redtom]

The big problem with weed is that it can become a gateway drug on to harder things, however this varies on person to person.

The great thing about legalised weed means it would no longer become a gate way drug, the main reason its considered one is because of the environment around purchasing the majority of weed, dealers often trying tog et people to purchase high end drugs and try to talk people into getting 'a bigger hit' from some of the more dangerous drugs and maximise there own profits. If weed was legalised I'm pretty sure it would reduce the number of people taking harder drugs for the next few generations compared to the current and it would also deduce the number of dealers dramatically.

People who are saying tha there is no reason behind it being illegal; of course there is!

Well let's face it, it's illegal for some reason.
I'm just saying it does mess with your was and is psychologically harmful and personally I wouldn't make it legal. Psychological harm is a perfectly valid reason to it being illegal.

The original laws to ban weed was because of propergander and pure lies (proven to be lies) presented to those in power which then took this information and voted to ban. Alcohol and Tobacco avoided these bans because they were a part of life and made the rich even richer.

If it was legal than think of how many kids would be smoking it, let's face it age restrictions don't stop underage drinking or smoking so why would t affect marijuana? It messed with your brain so much if smoked regularly , and people would be more open about it and probably smoke it more if it was legal, this increasing the amount it was used. This would mean more psychological damage to the people smoking it and would dramatically affect how well people did in education. The people that smoke it wouldn't be able to function properly in work because they'd be high or 'coming down'.

The point is it isn't fair to allow one drug and not another which is safer. It isn't fair to say yeah alcohol and tobacco are legal but weed isn't when there is a massive unbalance in terms of damage to health. True like all things it will be miss used but compared to the current accepted drugs it should be allowed.

Im not being narrow minded, I've done it and I know a lot of other people that have and also people that do it on a daily basis. It changes you as a person and you generally affects your motor skills.

Nice saying I have no logic, brilliant assumption seeing as youre saying this because I have a different opinion to you.

I think he's getting at you using pure opinion as a base of an argument rather than facts, he's not trying to offend you

However if it became legal it would be done far more and much more openly then it is now which, much like alcohol and tobacco, encourages children to start and binge drink, getting themselves into dangerous situations at young ages.

True if it were legal it would probably be done more at first, but after a while it'll die down. Most people try it within there lives and have actively made the decision not to do it often or again because that's what they want. Legalising weed would remove the majority of dangerous situations young people find them in when trying to get weed. Have you seen the times of people selling weed? I've known people to get in lots of trouble because dealers trying to take advantage of them. Removing the need for young people to interact with dealers would also lower the rate in which young people access harder drugs thus in future massively lowering the addiction rate to hard drugs. This will also take strain off the NHS, and because of the lower addiction rate it would massively in turn reduce the rate of drug related crimes and theft. Saving allot of money in the possess as well.

The lack of people wanting harder drugs and the obviously removal of weed from dealers means it will become harder to make money from drugs, it would make people considering taking that path for easy money change there mind and maybe even get a job! - Selling drugs would no longer be a way to make easy money.

Instead of basing everything you're saying on research, that you said yourself hasn't been completed, open your eyes to people who are actually doing it.

Alot of research has been completed proving the befits of legalising weed including medical reasons and economical reasons. Research has been done to disprove allot of the down sides, physiological problems in the young and those with under lying defects are the only real problems. Legalisation would obviously educate people and make it easy to spot and help any young people on weed.

A controlled way of drinking is like a pub, or where I work if someone's had too much they'll be turned down.

Pubs often only turn people aggressive people away, I could sit quietly at the bar of any pub in my town and drink until I pass out. People shouldn't be allow to drink that much.

[redtom]

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[Judas]

Well you're saying that my opinion is wrong.
I not saying anything about 'myths' of cannabis, I'm saying from what I've seen and I don't care if you disagree because you're goin to keep saying how much research an md**** you've done.
I PERSONALLY don't think it should be legal.

A controlled way of drinking is like a pub, or where I work if someone's had too much they'll be turned down.

Yes I know successful people smoke weed. But it depends how much they do it.

So we've established that you can't form an argument properly, that's fine by me

[Richie]

It doesn't really bother me. I literally just watch a program 'weed wars' and it's brilliant . I wouldn't personally take weed.

[Glen Coco]

So we've established that you can't form an argument properly, that's fine by me

and that you can't accept other people have opinions.

[Judas]

and that you can't accept other people have opinions.

And that you lack comprehension skills

It's not that you have a different opinion, it's that you have a different opinion formed entirely on mythical facts about cannabis and a few people you know.