Rare Values needs reform

[-Danube-]

I agree with Dan here the number of staff is very low considering the amount of new items of furniture being added. I think it was silly to have department staff limits, not sure if they are still around but i know they were still in play when i was in management. If they are, scrap them.

@Dean

This is my suggestion really. They need to get a much larger team of staff, maybe 30? and each person will be given 2-3 categories on Habbox to look after and each and every item in their categories must get atleast 1 edit each month, even if it just means pressing the save button on a rare but keeping the values and everything the same, atleast this item of furni has been looked over and people can see it's up to date. This should mean that no item on Habbox will be displaying information which is over a month old, i think that is an acceptable target. Head RVRs should have a group of maybe 10 reporters to look after to ensure all updates are being made. And by updates i don't just mean Values, they need to insure all images are working (and maybe upload all the rotation image and double clicks for each item), make sure descriptions are up to date, make sure names are correct, make sure all items are added to that section if Habbo release anymore.

Giving reporters ownership over a set number of categories will help greatly in making sure everything is up to date.

@xxMATTGxx

Matt why are loads of the images not actually showing up on the rare values, for example:

https://habbox.com/assets/images/99Gi..._Beanstalk.png

It's the image for the beanstalk but yet it says it's forbidden to view, i've seen a few others like this. For example i made every single rotation and double click for the Rare Voodoo Doll but yet the images are broken :S

~Dan

[xxMATTGxx]

I agree with Dan here the number of staff is very low considering the amount of new items of furniture being added. I think it was silly to have department staff limits, not sure if they are still around but i know they were still in play when i was in management. If they are, scrap them.

@Dean

This is my suggestion really. They need to get a much larger team of staff, maybe 30? and each person will be given 2-3 categories on Habbox to look after and each and every item in their categories must get atleast 1 edit each month, even if it just means pressing the save button on a rare but keeping the values and everything the same, atleast this item of furni has been looked over and people can see it's up to date. This should mean that no item on Habbox will be displaying information which is over a month old, i think that is an acceptable target. Head RVRs should have a group of maybe 10 reporters to look after to ensure all updates are being made. And by updates i don't just mean Values, they need to insure all images are working (and maybe upload all the rotation image and double clicks for each item), make sure descriptions are up to date, make sure names are correct, make sure all items are added to that section if Habbo release anymore.

Giving reporters ownership over a set number of categories will help greatly in making sure everything is up to date.

@xxMATTGxx

Matt why are loads of the images not actually showing up on the rare values, for example:

https://habbox.com/assets/images/99Gi..._Beanstalk.png

It's the image for the beanstalk but yet it says it's forbidden to view, i've seen a few others like this. For example i made every single rotation and double click for the Rare Voodoo Doll but yet the images are broken :S

~Dan

Because http://assets.habbox.com/ needs changing to: https://habbox.com/assets

https://habbox.com/assets/images/99Gi..._Beanstalk.png

[Inseriousity.]

Staff limits have not been around for a while now so do not think this complaint really holds up at the present time. This is because we trust our managers to be sensible and not go OTT but recognise that different times may require different levels of staff. I don't want to blame the managers either as I'm aware that applications across the board have been down a bit recently.

As for furniture database, who's going to use it, whats the point of it, is it just a tokenistic gesture to keep a department that's been run into the ground already. The only (imo) viable alternative to rare values is the habbox marketplace idea that was always talked about but never actually acted upon for a number of reasons during v6. If there's one thing you can blame management on, it's that there is always a lot of talk and little results. Hopefully we will get there in the end. Is it too late? I don't think it is time to write the department off just yet.

[Dean]

Oohh whats this about Rare Values Editors to help update the prices? is this the same idea I pushed back under 8Freak8 that was knocked straight down without any consideration when I warned that the number of rares was becoming too much for two people to update on their own? is this the same idea that I pushed last year or the year before and was knocked down for despite the problem being even worse? (and then told values weren't being updated, when they actually were - but at least I can say that I never had any complaint threads made about the department at that time with only management having the problem). All that I can say is that i'm glad it's been finally done, around four years too late.

I have pointed this out before, the department back in 2006/2007 was around twenty five people+ .. and yet now it's much less despite the number of rares increasing around tenfold. But then again I say, when I tried to correct this the second time I headed the department, management placed a limit (what for, I do not know) on how many staff members we and other departments could have ... yet another road block. The problem with Habbox departments has always been management, sure it's much better now - but the problem has always been usually management as opposed to the departments themselves meaning that when you have a problem the manager or staff members take the heat for it.. despite being the ones who simply did as they were told, or tried to change things and thus upset those in more senior positions.

Here's it simplified

2006/2007

Staff numbers: around 25
Number of people editing values: 2
Number of rares: 600 odd at most?
Management: blocked any suggestions that more people were needed to update values.

2010ish

Staff numbers: around 15
Number of people editing values: 2
Number of rares: 1,500 to 2,500?
Management: blocked any suggestions that more editors were needed, also placed a limit on staff numbers.

Anyone see the backwardness of it?

I agree so much

[Samantha]

I agree so much

Furni editors don't update values.

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[MKR&*42]

Furni editors don't update values.

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Ok a few pages in and I'm still confused, if they don't update values what do they update? o.o

[xxMATTGxx]

Ok a few pages in and I'm still confused, if they don't update values what do they update? o.o

They basically add or edit the furni into the values system. So If new furni has been released on Habbo and it needs adding to the site, these guys are the one who actually adds it. They create the name, get the images/create the images and put into the system. They do not touch the value of any furni.

Furni Editor is basically adding furni to the site, not updating the values. It was part of the reporter role but many staff members found it hard to find time in creating sprites and adding them to the site. So hence the separation after it being suggested by previous RVR management and current RVR staff.

[MKR&*42]

They basically add or edit the furni into the values system. So If new furni has been released on Habbo and it needs adding to the site, these guys are the one who actually adds it. They create the name, get the images/create the images and put into the system. They do not touch the value of any furni.

Oh ok, I get it now. Doesn't sound like a bad idea tbh if it's becoming too much for ordinary RV staff to handle .

[Samantha]

Oh ok, I get it now. Doesn't sound like a bad idea tbh if it's becoming too much for ordinary RV staff to handle .

The problem was only me will and Jason could add them before lol.

[MKR&*42]

The problem was only me will and Jason could add them before lol.

Oh, is this all because of how perms work? (From what I gather by the past few pages). If so, looks like you'll be glad (and many others) for V7