14 people dead at Batman Film Premiere

[FiftyCal]

That is the dumbest thing I've read so far today but then again it's the typical dumb thing most americans would say

Think of it this way, if innocent civilians were packing with a concealed weapons permit he would of been taken down and would of had WAY less casualties.

US firearm murders in 2009 was 9146, the UK equivalent in 2008 was 195. So to solve this problem, you want to ease restrictions on guns...

Here's my source for the statistics: http://www.juancole.com/2011/01/over...-39-in-uk.html.

Okay the numbers are different, that still doesn't mean guns should be banned completely, every honest hard working citizen should deserve the right to have a gun to defend and protect in situations like this. We also have a bad habit of locking in murders and not throwing away the key. Matter fact a jail in my town just released 300 Criminals because they ran out of funding from the state, so its those kinds of people that rack up the numbers.

[dbgtz]

Think of it this way, if innocent civilians were packing with a concealed weapons permit he would of been taken down and would of had WAY less casualties.

You could then argue it would cause a slippery slope effect and create a full blown shoot out. You could argue either way, but you would never know unless it's tested.

Okay the numbers are different, that still doesn't mean guns should be banned completely, every honest hard working citizen should deserve the right to have a gun to defend and protect in situations like this. We also have a bad habit of locking in murders and not throwing away the key. Matter fact a jail in my town just released 300 Criminals because they ran out of funding from the state, so its those kinds of people that rack up the numbers.

Situations like this wouldn't have occured if they didn't have guns, or at least these situations would be much less frequent. I think those last 2 sentences just show how moronic your government can be.

[The Don]

You could then argue it would cause a slippery slope effect and create a full blown shoot out. You could argue either way, but you would never know unless it's tested.



Situations like this wouldn't have occured if they didn't have guns, or at least these situations would be much less frequent. I think those last 2 sentences just show how moronic your government can be.

There was a recent case where two armed kids tried to rob a supermarket and a random citizen managed to scare them off with his firearm. Not that i'm suggesting more guns will reduce the problem, just pointing out that in past cases it has prevented more casualties

[Stephen]

Think of it this way, if innocent civilians were packing with a concealed weapons permit he would of been taken down and would of had WAY less casualties.

Okay the numbers are different, that still doesn't mean guns should be banned completely, every honest hard working citizen should deserve the right to have a gun to defend and protect in situations like this. We also have a bad habit of locking in murders and not throwing away the key. Matter fact a jail in my town just released 300 Criminals because they ran out of funding from the state, so its those kinds of people that rack up the numbers.

Hey we all have weapons on us and we're in a dark cinema with tear gas everywhere.. LET'S JUST BLINDLY MASSACRE EVERYONE TO SAVE HIM THE JOB

[karter]

omg this so sad! especially after i read jessica's tweets

i hope the infant story is not true! rip all the victims

[efq]

I'm at work, and today some guy came in fully dressed in a Batman costume, I was tempted to have ago at him but I couldn't because of the children x

[Absently]

Think of it this way, if innocent civilians were packing with a concealed weapons permit he would of been taken down and would of had WAY less casualties.

Okay the numbers are different, that still doesn't mean guns should be banned completely, every honest hard working citizen should deserve the right to have a gun to defend and protect in situations like this. We also have a bad habit of locking in murders and not throwing away the key. Matter fact a jail in my town just released 300 Criminals because they ran out of funding from the state, so its those kinds of people that rack up the numbers.

Wouldn't that just change our society completely? Imagine growing up and seeing guns everywhere, it kind of drowns out the happiness, doesn't it?

[FlyingJesus]

Disarming Innocent People Does not protect innocent people. This is why they need to allow open/concealed carry in movie theaters so if there's any people that escaped the mental hospital and decide they want to shoot people, then people that are open carrying would take action right away instead of waiting for cops to arrive while more get slaughtered.

If guns are only for self-defence surely it would make more sense to carry a debilitating device of some sort rather than a lethal one, and it's only the presence of weapons that makes further weapons "necessary". Really gun ownership ought to be limited to home & range use, with possession in public places being illegal, especially if live rounds are loaded

to be fair when you take it into account in terms of population size the uk has a higher percentage of gun murders.
the figure for the usa seems really low though.

Even if those figures were total deaths and hadn't been adjusted for population difference, US gun fatalities/US population is 1 in 34,068 and the UK figures come up at 1 in 321,235

Think of it this way, if innocent civilians were packing with a concealed weapons permit he would of been taken down and would of had WAY less casualties.

No think of it THIS way: if guns were not so prevalent and required far more paperwork to get a hold of at all (rather than being able to buy them over the counter along with the weekly shopping) there would be less guns around, and therefore less opportunity for guns to be fired at people. You're also assuming that all civilians are capable of adopting a killing mentality, and of being sufficiently proficient with firearms to stop an attacker without harming anyone else or getting shot themselves

We also have a bad habit of locking in murders and not throwing away the key. Matter fact a jail in my town just released 300 Criminals because they ran out of funding from the state, so its those kinds of people that rack up the numbers.

This is because Western governments spend so much locking up people for non-violent and victimless crimes (mostly "war on drugs" type stuff), which leaves fewer resources and prison spaces to deal with those who really should be in there. While I don't think murderers should be released - and certainly not just to free up a bit of space - the biggest mass shootings that I can think of tend to be committed by people with little to no criminal history whatsoever, so clearly it's the weapon availability and improper regulation that's the problem rather than some big criminal conspiracy

[Mikey]

I heard about this when I was on my phone yesterday. It's absolutely horrible, why do that? :S

R.I.P to the people who died :[

[Stephen]

I'm at work, and today some guy came in fully dressed in a Batman costume, I was tempted to have ago at him but I couldn't because of the children x

Why would you have ago at someone dressed as batman